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by **Timbales** » Fri May 18, 2012 4:39 pm

None.

Comics needs more permanent deaths.

by **Zechs** » Fri May 18, 2012 4:40 pm

Starlord wrote:

If I was still running the avatar of the month thread your's would actually be a shoo in this month, alas Yoni has stripped me of my monthly event.

NOOOO!!!!!

by **Keb** » Fri May 18, 2012 4:42 pm

Starlord wrote:

If I was still running the avatar of the month thread your's would actually be a shoo in this month, alas Yoni has stripped me of my monthly event.

If you and Yoni were women, this would be awkward...

by **misac** » Fri May 18, 2012 4:49 pm

Starlord wrote:JEAN GREY!!!! (only because they've already brought her back once so why not again)

WALLY WEST!!! (I will never be the fan of DC that I was until this character is brought back to the glory days that he once was)

I actually would like Jean to return too. It'd be interesting what would happen with the X-men split.

by **Grayson** » Fri May 18, 2012 4:58 pm

Sitebreaker wrote:So i know you absolutely hate any Nova that's not Richard, Sakie, but how is he an "imposter" if he's part of an intergalactic police force... it'd be like saying Guy/Kyle/John/Kilowag/any other GL is an "imposter" if its not Hal Jordan in the costume...

I don't hate any Nova that's not Richard. In fact, I happened to really like some of the newer Corps members that were introduced during the last on-going series. I have even been tempted to draft Qubit (and now I miss Qubit too!) in some of the drafts before.

What bothers me so much about Sam Alexander is that he absolutely wasn't a necassary character to begin with. It wasn't like Marvel needed to reboot Nova. Marvel had spent so much time building Richard Rider up and turning him into an A-List character. They did a great job, the story was compelling and it never felt forced. At the end of the day, you really believed that this kid who was a New Warrior only a few years ago, had become one of the most powerful characters in the Marvel Universe and that he could unite other insanely powerful characters under his leadership. Then, they go and have him sacrifice himself during the Thanos Imperative. Ok, no big deal. We all knew that with the ambiguity of they way he went out, it would only be a short time until he came back.

Now they brought back Thanos and apparently they are bringing back both Star-Lord and Drax in the future. So almost all of the major players who were killed or disappeared during the Thanos Imperative have/are returning...except for Richard. Why? Because Sam Alexander is around and he is Jeph Loeb's creation that just so happens to also be in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon series. Why would they bring Richard back now?

So yeah, basically all of that and also because I have been in a very silly mood lately.

by **covalesky** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:01 pm

Timbales wrote:None.

Comics needs more permanent deaths.

2nd

by **draco x** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:17 pm

Sakie wrote:Nova (Richard Rider) - While he isn't technically dead, he has been missing in action for far too long. Bring him back so that he can deal with this imposter "Nova" Sam Alexander and then get back to business.

Wally West - Again, not technically dead...in fact, not technically in existence. However, DC really screwed him (and now everything else) over by bringing Barry Allen back. It's time for Wally to return and hopefully fix everything that Barry ruined.

Agreed totally. I never got the point of the new Nova or bringing back Barry Allen.

by **draco x** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:21 pm

Timbales wrote:None.

Comics needs more permanent deaths.

If the deaths are well written then sure. However, if it's shitty or biased writing( Like Lian) then no.

by **draco x** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:22 pm

Sakie wrote:
I don't hate any Nova that's not Richard. In fact, I happened to really like some of the newer Corps members that were introduced during the last on-going series. I have even been tempted to draft Qubit (and now I miss Qubit too!) in some of the drafts before.

What bothers me so much about Sam Alexander is that he absolutely wasn't a necassary character to begin with. It wasn't like Marvel needed to reboot Nova. Marvel had spent so much time building Richard Rider up and turning him into an A-List character. They did a great job, the story was compelling and it never felt forced. At the end of the day, you really believed that this kid who was a New Warrior only a few years ago, had become one of the most powerful characters in the Marvel Universe and that he could unite other insanely powerful characters under his leadership. Then, they go and have him sacrifice himself during the Thanos Imperative. Ok, no big deal. We all knew that with the ambiguity of they way he went out, it would only be a short time until he came back.

Now they brought back Thanos and apparently they are bringing back both Star-Lord and Drax in the future. So almost all of the major players who were killed or disappeared during the Thanos Imperative have/are returning...except for Richard. Why? Because Sam Alexander is around and he is Jeph Loeb's creation that just so happens to also be in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon series. Why would they bring Richard back now?

So yeah, basically all of that and also because I have been in a very silly mood lately.

More reason why Loeb should go back to DC where I liked him better.

by **draco x** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:22 pm

misac wrote:
I actually would like Jean to return too. It'd be interesting what would happen with the X-men split.

I should have added her to my list-my bad.

by **draco x** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:23 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:Every death in DC or Marvel Comics for the last 14 years. All are bad and stupid. Just a waste of characters for some heavy handed, piss poor crap writing.

Except Earth-Man. He needed to go.

Earth Man got bumped off? When? Not that I care because I never liked the character to begin with to be fair.

by **HNutz** » Fri May 18, 2012 6:16 pm

Wally West
Synch
Banshee

by **draco x** » Fri May 18, 2012 8:21 pm

HNutz wrote:Wally West
Synch
Banshee

Fully agreed.

by **MistaT** » Fri May 18, 2012 8:44 pm

I agree that there was point in killing Lilandra. I would like to see her back on the throne.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Wasp. Definitely want her back.

by **sdsichero** » Fri May 18, 2012 10:55 pm

Sakie wrote:
I don't hate any Nova that's not Richard. In fact, I happened to really like some of the newer Corps members that were introduced during the last on-going series. I have even been tempted to draft Qubit (and now I miss Qubit too!) in some of the drafts before.

What bothers me so much about Sam Alexander is that he absolutely wasn't a necassary character to begin with. It wasn't like Marvel needed to reboot Nova. Marvel had spent so much time building Richard Rider up and turning him into an A-List character. They did a great job, the story was compelling and it never felt forced. At the end of the day, you really believed that this kid who was a New Warrior only a few years ago, had become one of the most powerful characters in the Marvel Universe and that he could unite other insanely powerful characters under his leadership. Then, they go and have him sacrifice himself during the Thanos Imperative. Ok, no big deal. We all knew that with the ambiguity of they way he went out, it would only be a short time until he came back.

Now they brought back Thanos and apparently they are bringing back both Star-Lord and Drax in the future. So almost all of the major players who were killed or disappeared during the Thanos Imperative have/are returning...except for Richard. Why? Because Sam Alexander is around and he is Jeph Loeb's creation that just so happens to also be in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon series. Why would they bring Richard back now?

So yeah, basically all of that and also because I have been in a very silly mood lately.

No damnit! I will accept no substitutes! Phooey to Sam Alexander! Rider was THE MAN CALLED NOVA, not some random dude who is part of the Nova Corps!!! :smt013