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Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby LOLtron » Mon May 21, 2012 8:01 am

Can we please just get to the part where everybody fights?


So don't get me wrong, I love this show all the time, unconditionally, the way a mother loves her children/khaleesi her dragons, but was it just me or what this episode a bit slow? Well, not slow, but I don't feel we've accomplished much. To be fair, we've set up a lot of little things that lead into the next two episodes (which I am just like, so excited for you guys, you have no idea) but the sum total of this episode feels like... not much.

We open in Winterfell, where there's a surplus of dead ravens. Guess Theon isn't terribly proud of taking over the place and "burning" the Stark boys. Asha/Yara (seriously, why did they change her name?) shows up and calls him an idiot and a cunt. Actually the word "cunt" gets thrown around a lot in this episode, which I'm not opposed to, but it's best used to describe Cercei and Joffery. Theon is being more of a "fucking moron" in my opinion. Asha/Yara agrees with me, pointing out that, as Ironborn, they are bound to the sea and their ships, so taking over a castle in the middle of a forest in the middle of a continent isn't the best plan for world domination. We also get a glimpse into the fact that Theon was an annoying brat even when he was an infant, but either liked Yara or was scared shitless by her, so he didn't cry anymore.

In the North, the Lord of Bones shows up, looking dapper in his suit of, well, bones. They have Quorin captured. Ygritte defends Jon, thus preserving him from death for another day. She declares them even. Everyone else in the Watch's party is dead.

Somewhere vaguely in the Riverlands, Robb is discussing his whole "I have to marry a Frey" thing with Lady Talisa. We are reminded for the billionth time that Ned Stark was a super honourable and all-around good dude. His bannerman comes to him to inform him that the Kingslayer is gone. He confronts Catelyn, who admits she did it in hopes of saving Sansa and Arya. She's upset that all her children except Robb are captives. She doesn't know Bran and Rickon are "dead" yet, as none of those ravens are getting out. Think of how different Westeros would be if there was a decent 3G network. Everyone is super pissed at Lady Stark and Robb orders her under lockdown.

Nearby, Brienne rides off with Jaime in tow. He spends some time being a cocky, smarmy douchebag to her. Yet he's somehow loveable. Brienne is terse at best.

We leave the wacky and unlikely duo (they should start a spinoff on USA) to head over to Harrenhall. Lord Tywin discusses his plans with his men while Arya serves him. He decides to have his men set out at once and ride through the night to destroy the brotherhood and smash Robb's forces before they head over to King's Landing to defend against Stannis. He tells Arya to remain with The Mountain. She runs off looking for Jaqen, but doesn't find him before Tywin leaves. Awwww, I'm going to miss the Tywin/Arya thing so much!

In the North, Quorin purposefully starts a fight with Jon as part of his master plan. Jon looks really whiny, as usual.

Far south in King's Landing, Bronn is back! I've missed the bromance he has with Tyrion. They bicker a bit about various things, including manicures, clothing, and how an author's name is pronounced (they're for real like an old married couple) when Varys shows up. All we get from him is the proper pronunciation of the maester's name. I think the only thing this scene was establishing is that Stannis will most likely attack via the Mudgate, the weakest of the city gates, and that Tyrion is the only one trying to defend the city.

Up north, but with the Watch instead of the Wildlings, Sam is longing after Jon while they dig trenches for their piss or whatever. They dig up an old stone, marked with symbols of the first men. Beneath it is a black cloak bundled around some daggers and arrowheads made of obsidian/dragonglass and an old horn. No one is sure how they got there. This is another one of those small changes that I don't completely understand- why didn't they find that earlier, like in the book? Jon's supposed to have a dagger, after all.

Jaqen finally shows up to Harrenhall. Arya yells at him, since she missed her chance to get Lord Tywin (not that you didn't have, like, a million chances to stab/poison him yourself girl). She gives him his own name as her third choice. He is obviously not thrilled with that option. She extorts him for more extensive help defeating the Lannister forces.

In King's Landing, Cercei and Tyrion are having a lovely dinner between siblings. Their conversation turns sour (think: further use of the word "cunt"). In a scene that is almost identical to the book, she taunts Tyrion and informs him that she has his "whore," though he finds out it's actually Alayaya she has and not Shae. Cercei's in full bitch-form tonight, guys, none of that sympothy leftover from last week. Tyrion covers her mistake pretty well, though goes running to his rooms to find Shae after. They have a very sweet scene where he confesses his love to her and she says she loves him too and I want to rip her stupid whore head off. I know, I know, getting ahead of myself again. But seriously. Whore.

Robb confers with Roose Bolton about what to do about Winterfell/Casterly Rock. He wants to pursue the Lannister forces but knows he cannot leave Winterfell to Theon. Bolton again pushes the idea of his bastard marching to defend the northern stronghold, but is interrupted by Lady Talisa's arrival. She and Robb interact with each other, and I shall quote it exactly so no one feels left out:
Lady Talisa- My brother almost died but a slave saved him so I decided slavery is bad and helping people is good.
Robb- That's hot. Let's bang.
Talisa- Okay. Check out my butt, it's pretty nice, right?
Robb- Mmm, dat ass
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Meanwhile his sister Arya is being slightly more productive about defeating the Lannisters, in that she and Hot Pie and Gendry are heading to the gates to meet Jaqen & co. All the guards are dead.

Out on the sea, Stannis tells Davos all the terrible things people say about him for being an onion knight. Davos ain't even mad, bro. Then Stannis tells him that he would be appointed Hand of the King when Stannis sits upon the Iron Throne. Stannis is sending mixed signals on his feelings here.

In King's Landing, Joffery is yelling at Varys for not knowing anything about the happenings in Winterfell. He wants to take it over. Tyrion points out that Stannis is less than two days out from King's Landing, so maybe worry about that first. Joffery just grins his psychotic grin and says he shall give Stannis a red grin of his own (implying he will slay Stannis.) Right, Joff, I am so sure. Varys compliments Tyrion on his good work Hand-ing, and also mentions whispers of Dragons. Dragons!

Speaking of which, over in Qarth, Jorah is telling Dany to G-T-F-O. He also points out that calling her dragons her "children" all the time isn't strictly accurate, in a biological sense. Dany says something about fiyah and blud, or at least I assume she does, I kind of don't listen to her talk anymore. She strokes Jorah on the face, because she's a wench! A heartless wench I say! He agrees to follow her anywhere.

We end where we began, in Winterfell. Theon wants to pay the farmer for his trouble. Luwin notices the exchange, and also sees Osha slip down to the crypt with some bread. We pan over to them conversing. She tells him how they escaped and of how Theon killed the farmer's boys instead of the Starks. He is appalled and begs her not to tell them, lest they must bear the guilt, but Bran is listening. Poor kid.

Aaaaand that's it. See what I mean? Just more talking, but unlike last week's episode there wasn't a pile of character development. The acting is always solid, but come on. We've had enough foreplay, let's get down to the dirty stuff! Ships! Swords! Fire! Blood! That's what we watch this show for! Seriously, there was more action on my weekend news, although the city's sort of in a police lockdown right now. Whatever, the point is, we're ready for the battle of Blackwater. Well I am. Anyway, post thoughts/feelings in the comments or, alternatively, rate the tapability of Lady Talisa's ass.

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby PDH » Mon May 21, 2012 2:15 pm

I thought it was a great episode. :smt102

Next week's is the big one, though.

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby AaronW » Mon May 21, 2012 2:21 pm

Weak episode. Finding this season to be a lot weaker than the first season. Still a very good show but they are weakening too many characters with needless changes.

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby Miracloman » Mon May 21, 2012 4:12 pm

Lady Talisa's delicious ass made it all worthwhile.
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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby AaronW » Mon May 21, 2012 4:18 pm

Oh baby what an ass!

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby DrImprobable » Mon May 21, 2012 8:54 pm

Miracloman wrote:Lady Talisa's delicious ass made it all worthwhile.

AaronW wrote:Oh baby what an ass!


It's exactly this kind of stimulating conversation I'm aiming for. Carry on, good sirs.
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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby Grayson » Tue May 22, 2012 9:23 am

Ok, first of all somebody please tell me that this wasn't the last that we have seen of Jaqen because he is a pretty great character and he doesn't fuck around, he just gets shit done.

Next, granted I haven't read the books yet and I am sure that she thinks it served some great purpose but I can't think of something more infuriating than Catelyn's Stark's decision to undermine her son by releasing Jaime Lannister. Does she not realize that they now have absolutely NO leverage over the Lannisters? And remember, as far as she knows they still have BOTH Sansa and Arya. If the Lannisters found out that the Starks no longer had Jaime, there would be absolutely no reason for them to keep the Stark girls alive!

Wait a second, I can think of something as infuriating. Daenerys continues to insist on putting the lives of what few people she has left in jeopardy because she wants something but has absolutely no plan or means to get it. Seriously, how many of "her" people are left? Three? A small part of me wishes that Dany would get a boat and sail to King's Landing with her dragons in tow. She could stroll right up to King Joffrey on the Iron Throne and have a conversation that would go something like this:

Daenerys: I am Daenerys Targaryen, Khaleesi of the Dothraki, and Mother of Dragons. The Iron Throne is mine by right and I will have it.

Joffrey: This is a joke, right? My uncle Tyrion sent you to torment me for beating his whores, didn't he?

Daenerys: This is no joke, I will have what is rightfully mine.

Joffrey: Right. Ok, guards take her away. Place her head on a spike on the castle walls, then dump her body in with the pigs.

Daenerys: How dare you, do you have any idea who I am? I am Daenerys Tar...

Joffrey: Yes, yes, you already said that and it was boring the first time. Guards? Now please.

The End.

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby Rockman » Tue May 22, 2012 9:41 am

To address some of Sakie's points

Jaqen

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
We haven't officially seen him, but fan speculation is that he is posing as a member of the maester's college for some unknown purpose


Catelyn Stark's stupid decision

I haven't watched the episode yet, but in the book there is a scene where she gets Jamie drunk and forces him to swear an oath to return her children to her safely.

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
It gets interesting because he actually tries to keep this oath, and is one of the things that begins his road to redemption


Dany

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
She's an idiot and literally picks up thousands of followers (mostly ex slaves) who she has no means to feed or care for, but they are all her "children". Luckily her story gets interesting in book 3.

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby mrorangesoda » Tue May 22, 2012 9:50 am

Sakie wrote:Next, granted I haven't read the books yet and I am sure that she thinks it served some great purpose but I can't think of something more infuriating than Catelyn's Stark's decision to undermine her son by releasing Jaime Lannister. Does she not realize that they now have absolutely NO leverage over the Lannisters? And remember, as far as she knows they still have BOTH Sansa and Arya. If the Lannisters found out that the Starks no longer had Jaime, there would be absolutely no reason for them to keep the Stark girls alive!


Jaime was going to be dead by morning. Whathisname was going to go after him for killing his son and if Robb stopped him, his position as king of the north would be weakened and his army could break apart from within. This way, there's at least a chance of Jaime being able to release the girls. I believe that's the rationale. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I think I see its merits.

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby Grayson » Tue May 22, 2012 9:56 am

Rockman wrote:To address some of Sakie's points

Jaqen

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
We haven't officially seen him, but fan speculation is that he is posing as a member of the maester's college for some unknown purpose


Hmmm...interesting.

Catelyn Stark's stupid decision

I haven't watched the episode yet, but in the book there is a scene where she gets Jamie drunk and forces him to swear an oath to return her children to her safely.

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
It gets interesting because he actually tries to keep this oath, and is one of the things that begins his road to redemption


...oh ok, let's trust the guy who literally just told you that he really doesn't take any of his oaths seriously because there are just too many of them. Great plan!

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
Seriously though, if what you say is true then this storyline should get really interesting even though Catelyn Stark is still a moron.


Dany

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
She's an idiot and literally picks up thousands of followers (mostly ex slaves) who she has no means to feed or care for, but they are all her "children". Luckily her story gets interesting in book 3.


Ah, so she just continues to get more insufferable as time goes on. It has honestly gotten to the point where I can't tell who I dislike more between her and Joffrey.

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby Grayson » Tue May 22, 2012 10:15 am

mrorangesoda wrote:Jaime was going to be dead by morning. Whathisname was going to go after him for killing his son and if Robb stopped him, his position as king of the north would be weakened and his army could break apart from within. This way, there's at least a chance of Jaime being able to release the girls. I believe that's the rationale. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I think I see its merits.


So Robb is the King of the North but his people can basically tell him what to do. I get the fact that Jaime killed Whathisname's son and I get the fact that he wants revenge but what he doesn't seem to understand is that Jaime Lannister is a fucking Lannister! He is the son of the the commander of the opposing army and uncle/father of the rival king. Only an idiot wouldn't realize that he is far more valuable alive than dead.

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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby mrorangesoda » Tue May 22, 2012 10:32 am

Sakie wrote:
So Robb is the King of the North but his people can basically tell him what to do. I get the fact that Jaime killed Whathisname's son and I get the fact that he wants revenge but what he doesn't seem to understand is that Jaime Lannister is a fucking Lannister! He is the son of the the commander of the opposing army and uncle/father of the rival king. Only an idiot wouldn't realize that he is far more valuable alive than dead.


If they're pressed far enough, yeah. This is a war fueled by justice/vengeance. To deny someone what you're asking them to fight for is really going to push them. Pushing them at a time when Winterfell is in the hands of an opposing force while your sitting in the middle of the continent isn't the best idea. Whathisname is kind of an idiot, but from his view (and Bolton's, and others) what purpose does Jaime really serve- to free a couple of girls who can't fight? He's a top ranked swordsman and military leader- how is that an even trade? Jaime's usefulness as a prisoner was really eliminated when Joffrey had Ned killed.

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Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby Chris » Tue May 22, 2012 10:43 am

Dany gets way better in A Storm of Swords. I liked her story once she got her slave army going and once Whitebread joined her.
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Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby Chris » Tue May 22, 2012 10:46 am

As for the episode, it was good. I don't know about it being slow. There are few really MAJOR points in the books that could be considered exciting. It's a lot of quiet scheming and plot threads turning.

The show has gotten it perfect so far.

But next week has one of the best parts of the entire series, and hopefully they do it justice.
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Re: Game of Thrones- The Prince of Winterfell

Postby Rockman » Tue May 22, 2012 10:48 am

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