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by **Punchy** » Fri May 25, 2012 1:38 pm

More space-bound fun with the Secret Avengers. This issue kind of puts the impending threat of the Phoenix on the back-burner, and instead focuses on the more immediate problem of the Krazy Kree and the ‘resurrected’ Captain Marvel. I found it interesting that Remender chose to use narration from Mar-Vell, is this an indication that he’s the real deal? I honestly have no idea whether or not he’s real, he could be, but then again I thought that the Skrull Captain Marvel was real too, so what do I know? I’ve been suckered before. It seems that the Kree are under mind-control from someone, even the Supreme Intelligence is being told what to say, who are these guys? They look like Kree, but they have big Leader-esque brains. Hmmm… I also liked that this issue focussed a bit on the character of Captain Britain, and how his powers are dependant on his belief in himself or whatever it is, hopefully by the end of this arc he’ll have his mojo back and will win the fight. But it’s hard to see him succeeding where Thor failed, that fight between Thor and Mar-Vell was really fucking awesome, how come the best fight so far in AvX was between two Avengers? Renato Guedes’ art looked more polished than last issue too, so overall this was a big win for this book, one of the best AvX tie-ins I’ve read so far, nice one. But still, is he real?

by **HNutz** » Sat May 26, 2012 6:41 am

I'm disappointed with the direction this book has taken.

It's supposed to be about espionage and secrets, not Thor and Captain Marvel fighting in space...

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat May 26, 2012 6:57 am

Punchy wrote:...so overall this was a big win for this book, one of the best AvX tie-ins I’ve read so far, nice one.

Remember this? I do.

Punchy wrote:
You did notice that [AvX] is the only tie-in to Avengers Vs X-Men, hardly fleecing.

by **avengingtitan** » Sat May 26, 2012 7:39 am

HNutz wrote:I'm disappointed with the direction this book has taken.

It's supposed to be about espionage and secrets, not Thor and Captain Marvel fighting in space...

Yea I'm right there with you. This wasnt a very good issue.

by **Punchy** » Sat May 26, 2012 7:49 am

McDarkseid wrote:
Remember this? I do.

An issue of an ongoing series that ties-in to an event is different from a new mini-series.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat May 26, 2012 7:54 am

Punchy wrote:
An issue of an ongoing series that ties-in to an event is different from a new mini-series.

Who said anything about a miniseries? Don't try to redefine the argument at this late date! :lol:

by **Punchy** » Sat May 26, 2012 7:56 am

McDarkseid wrote:
Who said anything about a miniseries? Don't try to redefine the argument at this late date!

I think I said that back then.

How can Marvel be 'fleecing' me if the only AvX tie-ins I've read are in issues of titles I was already reading?

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat May 26, 2012 8:01 am

Punchy wrote:
I think I said that back then.

How can Marvel be 'fleecing' me if the only AvX tie-ins I've read are in issues of titles I was already reading?

You're already an easy mark, that's almost beside the point, but you're not the only sheep in the pasture.

by **Punchy** » Sat May 26, 2012 8:51 am

McDarkseid wrote:
You're already an easy mark, that's almost beside the point, but you're not the only sheep in the pasture.

It's not beside the point.

I don't see why you're trying to start an argument over this, compared to most events, AvX is much less exploitative. Yes, there are tie-ins inside ongoing series, but Civil War, Secret Invasion, Infinite Crisis etc had those and a lot of other mini-series.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat May 26, 2012 8:56 am

Punchy wrote:
It's not beside the point.

I don't see why you're trying to start an argument over this, compared to most events, AvX is much less exploitative. Yes, there are tie-ins inside ongoing series, but Civil War, Secret Invasion, Infinite Crisis etc had those and a lot of other mini-series.

There's no argument to me at all. But I admire your zen koan line of reasoning is all. :wink:

First there are no tie-ins
Then there are tie-ins
Now there are no tie-ins

by **Punchy** » Sat May 26, 2012 8:57 am

McDarkseid wrote:
There's no argument to me at all. But I admire your zen koan line of reasoning is all.

First there are no tie-ins
Then there are tie-ins
Now there are no tie-ins

There are different types of tie-ins.

by **sdsichero** » Sat May 26, 2012 12:50 pm

Punchy wrote:
It's not beside the point.

I don't see why you're trying to start an argument over this

I thought you met squid before

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Sat May 26, 2012 12:57 pm

I can't get into this arc, and it sucks because I love all the characters involved..

by **48THRiLLS** » Sat May 26, 2012 1:41 pm

I like this fine but the art is butt ugly.

by **chap22** » Sat May 26, 2012 1:59 pm

I am mystified by some of you. I thought this issue was fantastic. Shit, it's the best issue of anything I've ever read by Remender. Diff'rent strokes, I guess...