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Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

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Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby Zero » Wed May 30, 2012 3:24 pm

Ok so with the first new appearance of Victor Fries comes his new origin, and it's different. Not massively, but in a few key areas.

His powers seem a little different, I'm not sure his touch ever burnt with cold before did it? Eh, either way I don't really care.


**** Proper Spoilers after this bit ****


He killed his mother. She fell in the ice when out walking with him once and came out brain damaged and wheelchair bound. Seems he didn't like this so he ended up pushing her back into the ice the next year.

Big one then: Nora's not his wife. Instead she's the first ever person to be cryogenically frozen, and he fell in love with her while she was in the tube. They've never even met.

So what does this mean? Well he's less sympathetic, and more of a crazy bastard for one which I'm not sure I like but I can understand. It makes him more of a threat and gives Batman one less Arkham inmate to be on friendly terms with rather than punching.

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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby Dragavon » Wed May 30, 2012 3:27 pm

Zero wrote:He killed his mother. She fell in the ice when out walking with him once and came out brain damaged and wheelchair bound. Seems he didn't like this so he ended up pushing her back into the ice the next year.

Or that's the story he told the shrink. Could be she had an accident that had nothing to do with ice and when she came out brain damaged because of that, Victor killed her by dumping her in the ice.
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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby IvCNuB4 » Wed May 30, 2012 4:15 pm

That cold-hearted bastard :P
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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Wed May 30, 2012 4:20 pm

Oh, I liked this. I liked that a lot.

Holy crap, was that a good annual, and was that art ever AMAZING.

Where's Punchy? He wanted a positive thread, and I'm ready to gush over this book!
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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby sdsichero » Wed May 30, 2012 5:12 pm

Damn. I had a little sympathy for him before.

Oh well.

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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby The Old Doctor » Wed May 30, 2012 5:15 pm

ElijahSnowFan wrote:Oh, I liked this. I liked that a lot.

Holy crap, was that a good annual, and was that art ever AMAZING.

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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby Greg » Wed May 30, 2012 7:16 pm

Not sure I like this idea.
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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby guitarsmashley » Wed May 30, 2012 7:30 pm

Great issue but wasn't this supposed to be the last issue of Night of the owls? What the hell?
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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby IvCNuB4 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:39 am

Dragavon wrote:Or that's the story he told the shrink. Could be she had an accident that had nothing to do with ice and when she came out brain damaged because of that, Victor killed her by dumping her in the ice.


Or both. When he pushes her in it seemed like a mercy killing based on what he said. Maybe he wanted the ice to finish the job or he felt that was a "proper ending".

As far as the "burning ice" line mentioned above, I just assume that sub-zero temperatures do give flesh a burning sensation, right ?

And yeah, points for the art and coloring in this issue :smt023
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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby Zero » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 am

IvCNuB4 wrote:As far as the "burning ice" line mentioned above, I just assume that sub-zero temperatures do give flesh a burning sensation, right ?


Yeah usually, but I didn't know Freeze's skin was ever that cold before.

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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby Punchy » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:05 am

When I looked at the cover of this issue, my reaction was ‘What the hell? Why does a Mister Freeze origin story have a Night Of The Owls banner slapped on it? It makes no sense!’. But thankfully, I was wrong, Scott Snyder and co-writer James Tynion IV managed to write a story that did both, and they did it in style. First off, the connection between Mister Freeze and the Owls is explained well, and makes sense, he is the one who gave them the means with which to resurrect the Talons. I really like that Snyder has given his new villains a connection with a more traditional Bat-baddy, it connects them a lot more to the world of Batman and makes the retconning less egregious. Speaking of retcons, this issue marks a pretty big change in the origin of Mister Freeze, but on that I think really works. Much of Freeze’s story is the same, but Snyder and Tynion make one important change, Nora is not Victor Fries’ wife, he’s just crazy and thinks she is. Yes, this does make him less sympathetic, but I’ve never been one for sympathizing with villains, and the crazier a Bat-villain is, the better. Jason Fabok’s art impressed me here, reminding me of a cross between David Finch and Shane Davis, good stuff, and he got to draw a lot of iconic Bat-characters, not just the main guy and Freeze, but also Nightwing, Robin and the Penguin, which was cool. Hah, get it, cool, I’m so funny.

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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby David Bird » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:28 am

I liked it. I did wonder what Dini is going to make of the re-write of the Nora story, though.

As for the mother story, the way I read it was the first version is what he tells people and the second is what happened.

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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby IvCNuB4 » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:26 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:Great issue but wasn't this supposed to be the last issue of Night of the owls? What the hell?


No, they just said it continued here. I think it concludes in Batman #10 (June 13).
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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby guitarsmashley » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:31 pm

David Bird wrote:I liked it. I did wonder what Dini is going to make of the re-write of the Nora story, though.

As for the mother story, the way I read it was the first version is what he tells people and the second is what happened.


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Re: Batman Annual - Mr Freeze's new origin

Postby Punchy » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:39 pm

The framing sequence with his mother were two different occasions, her fall in the ice at the beginning is what disabled her at the end.

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