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[BubbaKanoosh]

But why does Hope HAVE to be on earth for the phoenix to merge with?? why is it such a big problem with people that she goes OFF world to meet up with the Phoenix?? Why take the risk on Earth that Hope can control the force. Why risk Billions of people on what amounts to more of a hunch. And before you say "the x-men are more familiar with the Phoenix Force," lets see the Avengers have Wolverine (who killed Jean the last time she had the phoenix force during Morrison's run) and Beast (arguably the smartest mutant who also was there during the first phoenix attack).

So was Storm. So was Cyke. So was Cyke. What's your point?

What's going to stop her from going BACK to earth if she happens to go batshit crazy (which won't happen because like everyone else she'll have a manner of control)..?

If Phoenix wants to get to Earth, it'll get to Earth.

[BubbaKanoosh]

And then you have Quentin Quire and Rachel both passing out when the Phoenix arrived, and Quenting saying that "it brings death".

Yet Rach still saying it can be controlled when she awakes and joins her father.

[dairydead]

So was Storm. So was Cyke. So was Cyke. What's your point?

What's going to stop her from going BACK to earth if she happens to go batshit crazy (which won't happen because like everyone else she'll have a manner of control)..?

If Phoenix wants to get to Earth, it'll get to Earth.

If someone wants to kill me, they'll kill me. I might as well just go paint a bullseye on my body just so they know where to shoot.

[BubbaKanoosh]

If someone wants to kill me, they'll kill me. I might as well just go paint a bullseye on my body just so they know where to shoot.

lol ok wut?

[alaska1125]

Other then non-Jean going nuts, all other people who have hosted the Phoenix have controlled it.

So, the odds the Cyke is going by are good.

And he has Cable who told him about the Avengers (which came true).

Then he saw Hope use the Phoenix to heal Cable.

I'm a little drunk right now, so I'm forgetting something. Does Scott even know of the destructive path the Phoenix is taking? He knows it's coming, and tats it.

Uh, ok. Non-Jean ate a star.

Rachel kind of controlled it.

I barely remember the War Song stuff, but it didn't seem like there was a lot of control there. Ah Hell, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Force_(comics)

A lot of death references in there.

[BubbaKanoosh]

Uh, ok. Non-Jean ate a star.

Rachel kind of controlled it.

I barely remember the War Song stuff, but it didn't seem like there was a lot of control there. Ah Hell, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Force_(comics)

A lot of death references in there.

I know she ate a star, because she couldn't control it.

All other hosts, handled it well.

[alaska1125]

I know she ate a star, because she couldn't control it.

All other hosts, handled it well.

Quentin Quire? Emma Frost? What do you mean by "All other hosts"?

[dairydead]

lol ok wut?

if someone wanted to rob my store, they'd find a way! I might as well just leave my stuff on the sidewalks at night so they can just take it.

[BubbaKanoosh]

I said non-jean because the real jean was cacooned.

[BubbaKanoosh]

Quentin Quire? Emma Frost? What do you mean by "All other hosts"?

Yep.

Did it destroy the world and all life as we know it?

[BubbaKanoosh]

if someone wanted to rob my store, they'd find a way! I might as well just leave my stuff on the sidewalks at night so they can just take it.

Again, applying rel workd logic to a super hero situation is dumb.

[alaska1125]

I said non-jean because the real jean was cacooned.

Yes. Got that. But what about all the other hosts that have supposedly controlled it? Rachel would be the only one I can think of. And Hell, she's not even from the 616.

[ReturnoftheMack]

So was Storm. So was Cyke. So was Cyke. What's your point?

What's going to stop her from going BACK to earth if she happens to go batshit crazy (which won't happen because like everyone else she'll have a manner of control)..?

If Phoenix wants to get to Earth, it'll get to Earth.

Nothing. But at least there's a chance it won't go back to earth after merging with Hope. A little chance is better than no chance.

And on the moon, the Watcher might break his vows for the 3,854,664th time and defeat the Phoenix.

[BubbaKanoosh]

List of hosts

Jean Grey: The most powerful and complete Phoenix Force and Host combination. Together they have become the White Phoenix of the Crown. Death has stated that Jean is the rightful owner of the Phoenix Force, and that she is not just a host, she is the Phoenix and the Phoenix is her.
Rook'shir: A Shi'ar that wielded the Phoenix Force through a giant blade, called the Blade of the Phoenix. He almost decimated the Shi'ar Empire.
Feron: Ancestor of the modern day Feron whose daydream-like visions prompted the Phoenix to adopt the firebird form it has today.
Necrom: Possessed a fraction of the Phoenix Force that would be later become known as the Anti-Phoenix.
Fongji: Not much is known about this red-haired girl, who lived in K'un-Lun centuries ago and was trained in the ways of the Iron Fist, as all of the previous guardians of K'un-Lun decided to keep her existence and the Phoenix Force's connection to the legacy of the Iron Fist a secret until the time of its next return.[volume & issue needed]
Madelyne Pryor: A clone of Jean Grey that was brought to life by a fraction of the Phoenix Force.
Rachel Summers: Daughter of Jean Grey and Scott Summers from an alternate timeline. Has been referred to as "The One True Phoenix"[38] She mysteriously lost her connection to the fragment of the "blue" Phoenix within her, and from this frame onward, the "hound" markings reappear on Rachel's face.
Professor X: Charles Xavier briefly possessed an eco of the Phoenix Force during his time with the Starjammers.
Diamanda Nero: She briefly became the host of the Phoenix after her fight with Rachel. However, she was not truly able to contain the Phoenix.
Prime was briefly possessed by the Phoenix Force while it was in the Malibu Universe
Amber Hunt was possessed by the Phoenix Force while it was in the Malibu Universe.
Quentin Quire: Reconstituted his body using a fragment of the shattered Phoenix Force when it came to Earth during the X-Men: Phoenix - Endsong, but the Phoenix eventually left him to his "sickness".
Emma Frost: Emma briefly became the host for Phoenix. However, she was not truly able to contain the Phoenix due to not having Omega-level power. See X-Men: Phoenix - Endsong. She does not consider herself a true avatar like Jean but rather a substitute for the wounded entity.
Stepford Cuckoos: Possessed a fraction of the Phoenix Force that they had to imprison inside of their diamond hearts. See X-Men: Phoenix - Warsong The Cuckoos mysteriously lost their connection to the Phoenix fragment (as of Uncanny X-Men #517) as it escapes their diamond hearts, leaving for parts unknown.
Korvus: Descendant of Rook'shir. Wielder of the Blade of the Phoenix. Currently the Blade is powerless after the connection to the Phoenix fragment was somehow lost.
Other characters were only possessed by the Phoenix Force during out-of-continuity tales. This includes Nightcrawler, Storm and Gabriel Summers in separate What If... stories, as well as Cyclops in the X-Men / Teen Titans inter-company crossover. Quentin Quire was revealed to be a host in the Here Comes Tomorrow storyline in the visions of Deathlok,[39] and in the timeline of Nocturne, the Phoenix Force possessed Colossus' soulless body and reshaped it into female form.

[BubbaKanoosh]

Yes. Got that. But what about all the other hosts that have supposedly controlled it? Rachel would be the only one I can think of. And Hell, she's not even from the 616.

But none if them went bstshit crazy and destroyed to world either. So why is this time different?