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by **holtom2000** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:44 pm

I was just thinking how Downey jr has elevated iron man to elite status in marvel

by **GHERU** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:46 pm

funckygarcon wrote: yes,but in the perspective of a guy who never read a comic in his life. Iron Man is the funniest Marvel character. which isn't true.

so?

its not like 99% of those people are going to go and look to see what he's like in the comcis

by **GHERU** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:47 pm

and, Spider-man was funny in the first two movies

not in this new one

but 1 and 2, yes

by **funckygarcon** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:47 pm

MikeinLA wrote:

Based on the reactions of the audience I saw the movie with, the average fan thinks the Hulk is the funniest Avenger.

based on the reaction of the audience i saw the movie with, the average fan didn't laugh at Hulk's scenes, but burst in tears with Iron Man's scenes:- with Loki, arguing with Captain America...etc.

by **GHERU** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:48 pm

and, Sppedball and Deadpool are funnier than Spider-man

by **GHERU** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:49 pm

funckygarcon wrote:
based on the reaction of the audience i saw the movie with, the average fan didn't laugh at Hulk's scenes, but burst in tears with Iron Man's scenes:- with Loki, arguing with Captain America...etc.

then your audiences were lame
everyone I've talked to has talked about how the Hulk was way more awesome then they ever thought possible
and all the kids talk about his him punching Thor and "puny god"

by **Grayson** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:49 pm

funckygarcon wrote:what i wanna say, is that they have to keep it real. why make him funnier that Spider-Man as an example?

Well, the Spider-Man films were made by a different studio and had different creative teams behind them than the Iron Man/Avengers films. Why should Jon Favreau, Joss Whedon, and/or Robert Downey Jr. intentionally dull Iron Man down, so that Tobey Maguire's performance as Spider-Man would be "funnier?"

Marvel/Disney have put out some of the best superhero movies of all time in the past few years because they have placed great creative teams at the helms of movies fronted by terrific actors and actresses. They don't have time to worry about overshadowing Spider-Man because at the moment, Spidey doesn't exist in their cinematic universe.

by **funckygarcon** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:50 pm

GHERU wrote:and, Spider-man was funny in the first two movies

funnier than Iron Man? i don't think so

by **GHERU** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:51 pm

funckygarcon wrote:
funnier than Iron Man? i don't think so

you said he wasn't funny

by **funckygarcon** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:53 pm

GHERU wrote:then your audiences were lame
everyone I've talked to has talked about how the Hulk was way more awesome then they ever thought possible
and all the kids talk about his him punching Thor and "puny god"

which is exactly what i'm talking about. is Hulk that funny in the comics? no

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:59 pm

I don't agree with this at all. RDJ does an amazing job as Tony Stark. He's phenomenal and he makes the character better, far more likable than Tony has ever been in the comics. In fact, I think that he's had a positive influence in the way Tony is written in the comics and cartoons and the way he is perceived by fans.

I don't think he detracts from the other characters, because Thor, Cap, and Hulk were all great in their own ways in the Avengers movie. Being the funniest does not automatically make you better. To me, one of the scenes that really gets me in that movie was seeing Cap first fight with Loki. Cap didn't need to be funny to make that scene great, it was just an excellent portrayal of the character and his willingness, with no real superpowers, to go up and fight a god in hand-to-hand combat. That's what makes Cap awesome, not one-liners. I've seen the movie twice, and both times, watching that scene, I get that thrill seeing the battle, that feeling of "this is fucking awesome" that ten year old me used to get seeing two great characters fight in a comic book. That feeling definitely repeats itself throughout the movie, and it does so equally with all the characters, IMO.

I think you're doing the characters a disservice if you expect them all to have witty lines. That's not what they're all about, and the movie would be kind of lame if the Avengers were all joking all the time. I think they struck the perfect balance.

by **Timbales** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:59 pm

funckygarcon wrote: yes,but in the perspective of a guy who never read a comic in his life. Iron Man is the funniest Marvel character. which isn't true.

he's also Robert Downey Jr, which also isn't true

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:01 pm

In the perspective of people who have never read comics, they're never going to anyway, so what does it matter?

by **GHERU** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:02 pm

funckygarcon wrote:
which is exactly what i'm talking about. is Hulk that funny in the comics? no

depending on the writer, yes

by **Chris** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:17 pm

funckygarcon wrote: yes,but in the perspective of a guy who never read a comic in his life. Iron Man is the funniest Marvel character. which isn't true.

Who cares? If they've never read a comic in their life, what happens in the comics is entirely irrelevant.