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[PDH]

I think that sometimes - and if you've ever written anything of your own you will be familiar with this - you have this great idea for a character but when you try to actually write them it just doesn't work the way you want. You forget that the audience doesn't have access to your notes, they only see what's on the finished page.

So sometimes you will 'create' a character who's supposed to funny but you, the writer, are not actually very funny so the character isn't either. The other characters stand around and say things like, 'Oh that guy is just hilarious!' but he just isn't. This happens a lot. You want the audience to take a villain seriously but the villain just gets his ass handed to him constantly. You want two characters to fall in love with each other but the relationship is an Anakin/Padme-level unconvincing disaster etc.

Iron Man in the comics is basically that and has been since his inception. We all know that he's supposed to be this smug, womanising drunk; a kind of flying, smartass Don Draper in power armour but he's usually just written as a bland, exposition-delivery robot who occasionally dabbles in fascism.

The movies did a far better of job of conveying what Iron Man was supposed to be (look at Stan Lee's comments about the character, for example. Iron Man was basically created for the sole purpose of fucking with liberals). They're vastly more interesting.

The other thing about Iron Man is the character was really before his time in a lot of ways. This is a twenty-first century hero. The tech, the hypocritical philanthropy, the terrorism, the celebrity culture, the futurism etc. It's just Super Steve Jobs. This is Iron Man's moment. This is the kind of hero people want right now. He's never been more relevant.

[Juan Cena]

so?

its not like 99% of those people are going to go and look to see what he's like in the comcis

It would help if 99% of moviegoers could find a comic book outside of an LCS, which may or may not exist where they live.

[xaraan]

this is the weirdest fucking complaint I think I've ever seen

[Arion]

credit Robert Downey Jr's awesomeness

Indeed.

[SuperginraiX]

this is the weirdest fucking complaint I think I've ever seen

And we are all stupider for taking it seriously.

[Log-Man]

this is the weirdest fucking complaint I think I've ever seen

What, are you new here?

[xaraan]

What, are you new here?

the answer being no should really tell you something

[The Shadow]

giving a character more than he deserves, is not fair for the other characters

Who said anyone or anything (such as treatment of characters) had to be 'fair'?

[CountD]

I have read this conversation

[CountD]

Indeed.

yeah!

Disney should cut him another check

[The Shadow]

yes,but in the perspective of a guy who never read a comic in his life. Iron Man is the funniest Marvel character. which isn't true.

Sooo. who cares then? Not the non-comic fan, that's for sure.

I agree with Hab; "It sounds like your arguing to make the character less interesting because at one point in time he was a less interesting character in the comics."

In the end what should be important is the movie(s) are good.

[The Shadow]

this is the weirdest fucking complaint I think I've ever seen

Yep.

BTW, your avatar is funnier than any Iron Man avatar's I've ever seen.

[GHERU]

I have read this conversation

you poor man

[CountD]

you poor man

[AaronW]

you said he wasn't funny

He wasn't. He never really cracked wise with anyone! I thought the clips I saw of the new flick had more humor in them than all the three prior flicks combined! So put that in your pipe and smoke it.