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[Dragavon]

There was that Purple Man/Jessica Jones thing in Alias.

He never actually raped her.

[alaska1125]

Both are pretty screwed up but yes, this could take the crown.

Say what you want about Chris Claremont, but Avengers Annual #10 did it's best to clean that shit up and dress down the Avengers at the same time.



You'd never guess from the awful Milgrom cover that the interior art would be so good. Thank you, Michael Golden!

[holtom2000]

Kevin Smith had Black Cat date raped (retroactively) in college.

Greg Rucka had Ultimate Elektra's college roomate date-raped which was the impetus to her (Elektra) becoming a bad guy.

Uck. Also jl of a 200 is clearly better then avengers 200

[chap22]

I'd say the same thing about the DCold too, though. Teen Titans hasn't been good since McKeever (and I'm admittedly biased on that), Justice League hasn't been good since Morrison and Firestorm...well, it's Firestorm.

A year ago, we had such brilliant comics such as Reign of Doomsday, Wonder Woman in a leather jacket, and evil Titans. People have had this tendency to romanticize the old DCU as if it wasn't also shit. It was shit and it was worse. The only difference is that there's less DC fanboys blindly supporting the company and claiming that Hawk and Dove isn't a sin against man.

i'll take some umbrage here:

JLA was good under Waid and Kelly post-Morrison.
Firestorm actually has a pretty decent history of good runs, from the initial 18 issues or so of the 80s book, Ostrander's later run on that same book, and the most recent Moore/Igle stuff.
and leather jacket WW actually turned into a pretty damn good story.

[Cat-Scratch]

Say what you want about Chris Claremont, but Avengers Annual #10 did it's best to clean that shit up and dress down the Avengers at the same time.



You'd never guess from the awful Milgrom cover that the interior art would be so good. Thank you, Michael Golden!

I've got that comic and the Avengers 200 issue too. It was a great art comic.

It was a great moment, yet one that got barely dealt with until Busiek covered Carol's alcoholism in his Avengers run.

[Cat-Scratch]

i'll take some umbrage here:

JLA was good under Waid and Kelly post-Morrison.
Firestorm actually has a pretty decent history of good runs, from the initial 18 issues or so of the 80s book, Ostrander's later run on that same book, and the most recent Moore/Igle stuff.
and leather jacket WW actually turned into a pretty damn good story.

The Hypolita is a gingerist arc.

[Log-Man]

Say what you want about Chris Claremont, but Avengers Annual #10 did it's best to clean that shit up and dress down the Avengers at the same time.



You'd never guess from the awful Milgrom cover that the interior art would be so good. Thank you, Michael Golden!

First appearance of Rogue, right?

[BlueStreak]

i'll take some umbrage here:

JLA was good under Waid and Kelly post-Morrison.
Firestorm actually has a pretty decent history of good runs, from the initial 18 issues or so of the 80s book, Ostrander's later run on that same book, and the most recent Moore/Igle stuff.
and leather jacket WW actually turned into a pretty damn good story.

Waid's JLA was a decade ago. Igle's Firestorm was five years ago. We'll agree to disagree with Wonder Woman.

DC has published a lot of crap in the last five years. I'd rather the crap be "poor, stripped down versions of characters" with no backstory and no "real relation" to the characters that fans care about than the characters with all the backhistory and emotional connections that people will buy comics for no matter how nauseatingly awful they are.

[IvCNuB4]

The Hypolita is a gingerist arc.

Wait. Aren't they talking about Wonder Woman just before the reboot, and not way back when when Artemis took over for a while as WW ?

[Cat-Scratch]

Wait. Aren't they talking about Wonder Woman just before the reboot, and not way back when when Artemis took over for a while as WW ?

Chap mentioned the leather jacket storyline of WW. Aka the Wonder Fly Girl arc. That was the time with Artemis took over as WW. I laugh at it because it broke down as Hypolita decided to let a red head take the bullet for her daughter. Gingerist!

[Arion]

He never actually raped her.

Try to convince the jury.

[chap22]

Chap mentioned the leather jacket storyline of WW. Aka the Wonder Fly Girl arc. That was the time with Artemis took over as WW. I laugh at it because it broke down as Hypolita decided to let a red head take the bullet for her daughter. Gingerist!

No, I was talking about the JMS stuff just pre-reboot. She had a jacket there too

[Chris]

He never actually raped her.

Not physically, no.

[alaska1125]

First appearance of Rogue, right?

Yep. This was probably the most badass incarnation of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants ever. Pyro had one of the coolest looking splash pages I'd ever seen at the time.

[Arion]

Not physically, no.

A mental violation is still a crime.