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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Apache Chef » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:19 pm

I might be done with this book. I haven't been enjoying it much lately, and I don't need imagery like this in my head, honestly.

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby habitual » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:43 pm

US Agent wrote:Can't say I expected that this issue.


Really?

I thought it was a bit predictable.

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby US Agent » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:41 pm

habitual wrote:
Really?

I thought it was a bit predictable.

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Nope, thought for sure Andrea and the rest would get wiped out this issue and Rick and the rest would return to find most of them zombies.

Once I started reading the issue though, yeah then it was pretty predictable.

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Victorian Squid » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:44 pm

I can't help it, I was expecting something with more of a twist than a faux-random act of brutality on a set-up character by The Governor II.

I'm not put off by the graphic content like AC, it's a horror comic after all, but I do feel let down by this issue.

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby GregLead » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:59 pm

RIP Glenn

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Apache Chef » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:59 pm

McDarkseid wrote:I can't help it, I was expecting something with more of a twist than a faux-random act of brutality on a set-up character by The Governor II.

I'm not put off by the graphic content like AC, it's a horror comic after all, but I do feel let down by this issue.



Well, normally, if I'm enjoying the story, the graphic content doesn't affect all that much. Like you say, it is a horror comic, and I've read all 100 issues of it. But this just seemed like shock value for the sake of shock value.

And a little more disturbing to me than usual for some reason.

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Chris » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:40 pm

This feels like The Governor 2.0

Not feeling this book lately.
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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Victorian Squid » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:52 pm

Holland Oats wrote:This feels like The Governor 2.0

Not feeling this book lately.


Yeah, that was my big problem too, how is this much different from The Governor?

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Well, normally, if I'm enjoying the story, the graphic content doesn't affect all that much. Like you say, it is a horror comic, and I've read all 100 issues of it. But this just seemed like shock value for the sake of shock value.

And a little more disturbing to me than usual for some reason.


Yeah, it's a pretty ugly series of panels to look at whether you identify with the character or not. I know what you're saying, I don't often watch the sort of horror movies that are essentially the same sort of scenes filmed squarely on like this one is drawn here. There's no telling how splatterpunk things will go from here on out.

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Chris » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:20 pm

The book has become repetitive.

1. Find new place, think it's a great place to settle.
2. Be suspicious of people.
3. People turn out to be trustworthy.
4. New people show up.
5. New people ruin everything.
6. Shock-value deaths.
7. Rick and the gang have to move on and find a new home.
8. Repeat steps 1-7.
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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Victorian Squid » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:44 pm

Yeah, I was really hoping for something to break that pattern and shake things up instead of more hammering home that no one is safe.

Characterization-wise, we have lost several of the stronger ones recently, like Abraham and now Glen, and although TWD really is Rick's story apparently like Kirkman has said, I don't think he's the character people identify with much at all anymore.

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Chris » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:47 pm

There just doesn't seem to be much actual plot progression. They move the plot forward, going from place to place.. but they don't actually progress much, if that makes sense - it's all the same thing every arc, it seems.

I've still enjoyed it, but the last 10 issues or so have really driven that point home for me.

Shock value can't sustain my interest much longer.
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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby sinosleep » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:01 pm

Holland Oats wrote:The book has become repetitive.

1. Find new place, think it's a great place to settle.
2. Be suspicious of people.
3. People turn out to be trustworthy.
4. New people show up.
5. New people ruin everything.
6. Shock-value deaths.
7. Rick and the gang have to move on and find a new home.
8. Repeat steps 1-7.


If they aren't planning on ending the book what else can they do? They find an ideal area where everyone is nice to them then where is the drama going to come from? It's been established the walkers essentially aren't a threat unless something else is causing a distraction so they're out. If new groups of people causing problems is out too then what can they replace it with? I think it's clear Kirkman wants to stick with the Romero zombies so new breeds are out. They're kind of stuck at this point.

Also, the shock value deaths in Walking Dead actually have shock value since there are no phoenix forces of whatever else to bring anyone back with. When a character's dead, they're dead and you know there's no hope whatsoever that they're coming back. Even today knowing full well that a major character was going to die it still managed to illicit an emotional response. I felt kinda sick seeing him go out. I haven't given a crap about a character dying in an ongoing in ages.
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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby alaska1125 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:47 am

I absolutely hated the end. So I guess Fat Bob did his job.

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Re: The Walking Dead #100 Death Odds and Speculation

Postby Chris » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:47 am

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If they aren't planning on ending the book what else can they do? They find an ideal area where everyone is nice to them then where is the drama going to come from? It's been established the walkers essentially aren't a threat unless something else is causing a distraction so they're out. If new groups of people causing problems is out too then what can they replace it with? I think it's clear Kirkman wants to stick with the Romero zombies so new breeds are out. They're kind of stuck at this point.


That's not really my problem, as a reader.

"Kirkman is stuck, so he has no choice but to stay the course" is not a good defense for the book being repetitive. Maybe he should plan to end it?

And there's nothing wrong with using deaths for shock value - but that's all that happens in the book anymore. It's the same plot recycled time and time again, and then Kirkman throws in a big death for the hype.
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