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[Jason Berek-Lewis]

My iPod features:
Billy Idol
Billy Joel
Cold Chisel
Crowded House
del Amitri
Dire Straits
The Doors
Duran Duran
EMF
George Michael
INXS
Jesus Jones
Lord Of The Rings 1 - 3 soundtracks
Matisyahu
Midnight Oil
Phil Collins
Pink Floyd
Queen
Simple Minds
Simply Red
Star Wars I - VI soundtracks
U2

[Infernorhythm]

The greatest band is Doubledrive, IMHO. They broke up in 2004, but their two CDs were the greatest things I have ever heard. I highly, highly, highly recommend you go buy Blue in the Face off iTunes or something, it is unbelievably good.

I'm mostly into punk and classic rock. I love the Clash, but right now the best punk band is the Vines. Vision Valley may not have sold as good as their first two CDs, but it is a great CD everyone needs to hear.

I also love:
-AFI
-Led Zeppelin
-Coheed and Cambria
-Matisyahu
-Beastie Boys
-The Offspring
-Bush
-Linkin Park
-Fort Minor
-The Ramones
-Beck
-Josh Joplin Group

[Jason Berek-Lewis]

Matis is amazing. Glad to see another fan here

[fallentaco]

Im not really listening to anything now, but by Tuesday ill be listening to The Almost: Southern Weather, The Academy Is...Santi, Shadows Fall's new CD and the new Linkin Park single, it will be a good day!

[fallentaco]

Im not really listening to anything now, but by Tuesday ill be listening to The Almost: Southern Weather, The Academy Is...Santi, Shadows Fall's new CD and the new Linkin Park single, it will be a good day!

Yeah, I just saw that Linkin Park is putting out a new CD in May. I'm definitely looking foward to their new stuff.

May 15th, new single is released on Itunes today(Monday)

[fallentaco]

Im not really listening to anything now, but by Tuesday ill be listening to The Almost: Southern Weather, The Academy Is...Santi, Shadows Fall's new CD and the new Linkin Park single, it will be a good day!

Yeah, I just saw that Linkin Park is putting out a new CD in May. I'm definitely looking foward to their new stuff.

May 15th, new single is released on Itunes today(Monday)

Bah, I would rather wait until the single is on myspace or something. I ain't paying for the single until it's on the CD.

You should be able to listen to it on their myspace today...dont quote me on that but i think its up.

[Chamburger]

I used to like to listen to more mellow stuff when drawing, but as I've gotten older I find myself prefering to work with my head phones on listening to the likes of Slayer and Anthrax.

Jude, I know you're more of an obscure/underground metal head and your disdain for Metallica and Pantera is well documented, but what's your take on Anthrax and Slayer?

Favorite albums/era's?

I listen to alot of early Anthrax though I've had Volume 8 in my player fairly regularly after not listening to it for awhile. It's better than I remember.

I dig all my Slayer discs, but Seasons is the stand out for me.

[S.F. Jude Terror]

I used to like to listen to more mellow stuff when drawing, but as I've gotten older I find myself prefering to work with my head phones on listening to the likes of Slayer and Anthrax.

Jude, I know you're more of an obscure/underground metal head and your disdain for Metallica and Pantera is well documented, but what's your take on Anthrax and Slayer?

Favorite albums/era's?

I listen to alot of early Anthrax though I've had Volume 8 in my player fairly regularly after not listening to it for awhile. It's better than I remember.

I dig all my Slayer discs, but Seasons is the stand out for me.

For the record:

My opinions on...

Anthrax: Great with Neil Turbin, still great with Joey Belladonna, not quite as great with John Bush in the nineties, but still okay. Were never really kings of the underground like Metallica, so their sound-lightening didn't bother me at all really. Scott Ian on every single VH1 show ever is annoying though, and he kisses too much ass on their metal documentaries.

Slayer: The kings of metal for the eighties, all classic albums. Like most good metal bands, when the nineties rolled around, they lightened their sound. Seasons in the Abyss and Divine Intervention are still decent albums, but not QUITE as badass as their previous stuff. Undisputed Attitude showed they had some crappy taste in punk rock (although they DID cover some good Exploited songs on the Judgement Night soundtrack).

Major problem with Slayer is that, here are a bunch of guys who once epitomized the idea of evil, satanic metal, dressed like monsters from hell in their early stageshows, now they wear some baggy pants and play shows with hardcore bands. Still, not as bad a fall from grace as Metallica.

Megadeth: Set out to be better than Metallica, and achieved this. Their albums were always more chaotic and badass sounding than Metallica, and Mustaine's vocals killed Hetfields. Metallica's best album, Kill em All, was so good because of Mustaine's influence. Difficult to listen to Megadeth kick all kinds of metal ass and then go back to Metallica. Up until Countdown to Extinction, nobody was better than Megadeth. Unfortunately, because Mustaine was obsessed with beating Metallica at everything they did, so when Metallica pulled their great backstabbing against all things metal, Megadeth quickly followed suit, first with their Metal-Lite version of the black album, Countdown (which was still BETTER than the black album), and then with their unlistenable music afterwards.

and finally:

Metallica: Though not as good as everyone made them out to be in the first place, Metallica were the offical kings of underground metal in the eighties. They didn't make videos, they didn't get played on the radio - they got big simply through word of mouth and bootleg tape trading. They admitted and were proud of all this, encouraging fans to turn their backs on bands that weren't metal enough and promising never ever to make a video OR a ballad. Then, Cliff Burton, the most metal guy in the band dies, and Lars Ulrich, spawn of satan takes over leadership of the band. All downhill from here, as Lars is a money-grubbing, lying, disgusting excuse for a human being. Never make a video? Screw that, they make a video for One, and then make one for every song on the traitorous Black Album. Got big in the underground from bootleg tape trading? Pay all those people back by suing napster, because clearly they didn't have enough money already. Promised to never turn their backs on their hardcore underground fans? Get some polo shirts and nose rings, put out a bunch of soft rock ballads and jimmy buffet covers, go on MTV and laugh about selling out.

Like I said about the other bands, they all changed their sounds in the nineties. ALL got lighter, less true to metal. However, they were just bands trying to keep up with the world, and believe it or not, I CAN accept that. Metallica, however, went above and beyond the call of duty to do everything they promised never to do, and BECAUSE they KNEW exactly what they were doing, they got defensive about it and did all sorts of interviews on MTV were they basically rubbed their old fans' noses in it. Goes to show that they were phony bastards from the beginning, and it pains me now to realize that I can't enjoy formerly great masterpieces like Kill Em All, Ride the Lightning, and Master of Puppets.

Sigh. Dammit Cham, you know I can't talk about Metallica without a twenty-minute rant! But yeah, all that aside, Anthrax and Slayer kick ass. Fistful of Metal is my favorite Anthrax album. I would say that Hell Awaits is my favorite Slayer album, but they're all equal up to Divine intervention. Seasons in the Abyss gets a bad rep because it was slower than previous albums, but it is still badass. Expendable Youth is my favorite song off that one.

[fallentaco]

i could not agree more with you about Metallica Jude...

[Chamburger]

heh heh heh...

I agree on some things...not so much on others. I'm more from the school that metal is an attitude. I don't think less thrash always equals less metal. Kill 'Em All is great thrash but Master and Justice feel much more metal to me. Same thing with Seasons. Kill 'Em All and early Megadeth sound more like a bunch of sweaty, angry, pre-pubescent boys playing 70's riffs as fast as they can. I know for some people that's "metal", but I just like the much heavier and melodic sound Slayer, Metallica and Megadeth developed after their initial thrash albums. Then Metallica and Megadeth became rock bands...

I think Anthrax tried to become heavier throughout the 90's but I still dig their 80's music more. I think Slayer has had the most subtle evolution. There's a couple songs on Illusion and Diabolus that could be Seasons or Reign tunes.

Yeah, no matter which band Ian is interviewed about, he always comes across as that bands biggest fan. "OMG, they're like, SOOOOOO great..."

[S.F. Jude Terror]

a bunch of sweaty, angry, pre-pubescent boys playing 70's riffs as fast as they can.

Hahaha, great analysis, that IS what I think of as metal!

[ErickCruz]

and finally:

Metallica: Though not as good as everyone made them out to be in the first place, Metallica were the offical kings of underground metal in the eighties. They didn't make videos, they didn't get played on the radio - they got big simply through word of mouth and bootleg tape trading. They admitted and were proud of all this, encouraging fans to turn their backs on bands that weren't metal enough and promising never ever to make a video OR a ballad. Then, Cliff Burton, the most metal guy in the band dies, and Lars Ulrich, spawn of satan takes over leadership of the band. All downhill from here, as Lars is a money-grubbing, lying, disgusting excuse for a human being. Never make a video? Screw that, they make a video for One, and then make one for every song on the traitorous Black Album. Got big in the underground from bootleg tape trading? Pay all those people back by suing napster, because clearly they didn't have enough money already. Promised to never turn their backs on their hardcore underground fans? Get some polo shirts and nose rings, put out a bunch of soft rock ballads and jimmy buffet covers, go on MTV and laugh about selling out.

Like I said about the other bands, they all changed their sounds in the nineties. ALL got lighter, less true to metal. However, they were just bands trying to keep up with the world, and believe it or not, I CAN accept that. Metallica, however, went above and beyond the call of duty to do everything they promised never to do, and BECAUSE they KNEW exactly what they were doing, they got defensive about it and did all sorts of interviews on MTV were they basically rubbed their old fans' noses in it. Goes to show that they were phony bastards from the beginning, and it pains me now to realize that I can't enjoy formerly great masterpieces like Kill Em All, Ride the Lightning, and Master of Puppets.

Sigh. Dammit Cham, you know I can't talk about Metallica without a twenty-minute rant! But yeah, all that aside, Anthrax and Slayer kick ass. Fistful of Metal is my favorite Anthrax album. I would say that Hell Awaits is my favorite Slayer album, but they're all equal up to Divine intervention. Seasons in the Abyss gets a bad rep because it was slower than previous albums, but it is still badass. Expendable Youth is my favorite song off that one.

i see that i will have other things to debate besides Liefeld here. But i'll get to this later, i wanted to know if you guys have tried out Slacker radio

http://www.slacker.com/

type in the search engine a band you like and the station plays music based on that style of music.
So if you type "Metallica" you get bands like Slayer, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Mercyful Fate, Alice in Chains, etc etc.. i put it on when im working and it plays a great mix of songs. Of course it will play more from the band you chose but you can skip a song if you dont like it, up to 6 skips per hour.