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BubbaKanoosh

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Postby BubbaKanoosh » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:35 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:Not as a group but as individuals?

Cool, but they split the vote.


People voted for specific members. In the case of CSA I woulda asked for speicic one.. Certain teams I allowed ie: the Mad Men cuz they are known for that group, but when a group is made up of named characters, I asked for specifics. Its like saying your fav. hero is the JLA. Mind you, The Reach and White Martians are on the list so I did allow some "groups" persay..
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Jack Burton

biny little tird

Postby Jack Burton » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:36 pm

chap22 wrote:hey shut your hole. Ch'p and G'Nort are cool. that damn cat-lantern however, is stupid.


G'nort is cool because he's lame everyone knows he's lame and he's treated as a joke. Ch'p....yeah no. It's too goofy for me. My point is the cat thing is the same concept. Take an Earth animal give it a ring. Kinda boring.

Bubba did Captain Cold do well? Please tell me he did well.
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rdrsfn82

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby rdrsfn82 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:37 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:People voted for specific members. In the case of CSA I woulda asked for speicic one.. Certain teams I allowed ie: the Mad Men cuz they are known for that group, but when a group is made up of named characters, I asked for specifics. Its like saying your fav. hero is the JLA. Mind you, The Reach and White Martians are on the list so I did allow some "groups" persay..


That's a good point. The groups like the Dominators or the White Martians make sense to be counted as one, while groups of actual characters should be broken up.

I thought about voting for the Reach, but I just couldn't justify it. I'd vote for Traci 13, Brenda, Paco, Jaime's parents, or most any of the supporting characters if I could, but the Reach just didn't quite make enough of an impression on me to get a vote.
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chap22

Rain Partier

Postby chap22 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:39 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote: losers you like, such as Crazy Quilt.


them's fightin' words, boy!


DRAW! :smt071
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rdrsfn82

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby rdrsfn82 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:41 pm

chap22 wrote:them's fightin' words, boy!


DRAW! :smt071


I don't mean it as an insult, I should have said Jobbers. Guys that never have much success and instead lose easily, but actually have personality and history and have you know, actually had a speaking line in a comic before.
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chap22

Rain Partier

Postby chap22 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:41 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:I don't mean it as an insult, I should have said Jobbers. Guys that never have much success and instead lose easily, but actually have personality and history and have you know, actually had a speaking line in a comic before.

much better.
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Jack Burton

biny little tird

Postby Jack Burton » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:44 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:I don't mean it as an insult, I should have said Jobbers. Guys that never have much success and instead lose easily, but actually have personality and history and have you know, actually had a speaking line in a comic before.


Right the Wrecking Crews(best comic jobbers ever) if you will.
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rdrsfn82

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby rdrsfn82 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:51 pm

Jack Burton wrote:Right the Wrecking Crews(best comic jobbers ever) if you will.


Exactly. They aren't terrible, but their sole purpose seems to be to make new heroes or teams look impressive by losing to them. They help make other characters look better.

See also: Rhino, Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, the Prankster, Shocker, Flag Smasher, etc.

Some of these guys used to be legit threats with some amount of success, but none of them have been anything buy punching bags for years and years.

It's a tried and true formula that is used all the time in wrestling as well. The all time best jobber, in my opinion, is Val Venis, that guy can make anyone look like a top tier superstar. He sells better than anyone and controls the ring with the talent of a main eventer, all while deflecting all the accolades to his opponents. Plus his success as a former tag team and IC champ makes him look like a big enough name that beating him lends credibility to his opponents.
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BubbaKanoosh

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Postby BubbaKanoosh » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:02 pm

plenty of Jobbers on this list..
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john lewis hawk

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Postby john lewis hawk » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:04 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:plenty of Jobbers on this list..
Well, yeah. In comics, it's the villain's job to job.
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misac

Outhouse Editor

Postby misac » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:13 pm

120-118
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rdrsfn82

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby rdrsfn82 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:16 pm

john lewis wrote:Well, yeah. In comics, it's the villain's job to job.


In most forms of entertainment really. Sure there are some exceptions, but most of the time in entertainment people want to see the bad guys lose and the good guys win.
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rdrsfn82

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby rdrsfn82 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:18 pm

misac wrote:120-118


I'm shocked TO Morrow didn't get more support. He's had a pretty prominent role lately, but it looks like maybe he just got chap's 5th place vote.

I have no idea who Cavalier is.

Trickster is cool, but that seems like the right number of points for him.
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KING King Impulse

Teenage Wasteland

Postby KING King Impulse » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:21 pm

Trickster at #120! I'm ashamed of you all

Not that I voted for him
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Zechs

Outhouse Editor

Postby Zechs » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:21 pm

Damn Trickster got a raw deal. :(

And he tricked the devil too. Now I feel bad I didn't vote for him.

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