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Which is better, The Dark Knight Returns, or Year One?

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Postby Cat-Scratch » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:02 pm

I think Dark Knight fails in holding up with that dialogue. I cringe these days if I read any of it.

Year One is timeless to me and holds up well.
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Postby carl999 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:56 am

DKR is one of those books that you feel that it's your duty as a fan to read. It's a chore though. Important, but just cluttered. The casting of Superman as super fascist seems like a cheat with the obvious right wing slant of having Batman become more like Dirty Harry in this one.

Year One is streamlined and resembles Miller's Daredevil work back when he wasn't unstable.
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Postby achilles » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:21 pm

Between those two, Year One.
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Postby Cat-Scratch » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:24 pm

achilles wrote:Between those two, Year One.


POST MORE!!!! :-D
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Strict31 wrote:To quote Hunter S. Thompson, there is nothing more despicable than a cat in the depths of a nip binge..
Strict31 wrote:Listen to Feline Mussolini.
Strict31 wrote:You're goddamned insane.
achilles wrote:Pay no attention to Cat-Scratch people; he's insane from all that cat-nip.
Lord Simian wrote:"Us"? This is YOUR Kongdamn fault, mister "Bets on when this place will break again"....
Psivage wrote:Don't trust a cat. They are always up to no good.
Ragnascratch is coming... maybe.
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Postby achilles » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:54 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:POST MORE!!!! :-D


More. More. More! :P
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Postby Cat-Scratch » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:55 pm

achilles wrote:More. More. More! :P


NOW OTHER THREADS!!!

Zechs could use the support. :-D :wink:
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Strict31 wrote:To quote Hunter S. Thompson, there is nothing more despicable than a cat in the depths of a nip binge..
Strict31 wrote:Listen to Feline Mussolini.
Strict31 wrote:You're goddamned insane.
achilles wrote:Pay no attention to Cat-Scratch people; he's insane from all that cat-nip.
Lord Simian wrote:"Us"? This is YOUR Kongdamn fault, mister "Bets on when this place will break again"....
Psivage wrote:Don't trust a cat. They are always up to no good.
Ragnascratch is coming... maybe.
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Postby achilles » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:17 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:NOW OTHER THREADS!!!

Zechs could use the support. :-D :wink:


What, the Cyborg Superman App thread? I suppose I could say something nice about him... 8)
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Postby Cat-Scratch » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:55 pm

achilles wrote:What, the Cyborg Superman App thread? I suppose I could say something nice about him... 8)


OH, you missed the Batgrrl thread, that BG. used to visit?

The Goblins Thread?

The Doom Thread?

Also, all the times that Zechs has attempted to seize power here from Lord Simian?
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Strict31 wrote:To quote Hunter S. Thompson, there is nothing more despicable than a cat in the depths of a nip binge..
Strict31 wrote:Listen to Feline Mussolini.
Strict31 wrote:You're goddamned insane.
achilles wrote:Pay no attention to Cat-Scratch people; he's insane from all that cat-nip.
Lord Simian wrote:"Us"? This is YOUR Kongdamn fault, mister "Bets on when this place will break again"....
Psivage wrote:Don't trust a cat. They are always up to no good.
Ragnascratch is coming... maybe.
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Postby achilles » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:14 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:OH, you missed the Batgrrl thread, that BG. used to visit?

The Goblins Thread?

The Doom Thread?

Also, all the times that Zechs has attempted to seize power here from Lord Simian?


Ah yes, how could I miss those... :wink:
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Postby Cat-Scratch » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:18 pm

achilles wrote:Ah yes, how could I miss those... :wink:


Zechs recently made claims to rule the Newstand here.

Of course, this lead to an Asylum thread being renamed from "Is the Overlords Drunk with Power?" to "Is Zechs Drunk?" . :-D
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Strict31 wrote:To quote Hunter S. Thompson, there is nothing more despicable than a cat in the depths of a nip binge..
Strict31 wrote:Listen to Feline Mussolini.
Strict31 wrote:You're goddamned insane.
achilles wrote:Pay no attention to Cat-Scratch people; he's insane from all that cat-nip.
Lord Simian wrote:"Us"? This is YOUR Kongdamn fault, mister "Bets on when this place will break again"....
Psivage wrote:Don't trust a cat. They are always up to no good.
Ragnascratch is coming... maybe.
／人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕ 人＼
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Postby McKegan » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:43 am

DKR.

Year One's fine, but there really isn't anything unexpected there. Honestly, it's a bit of a bore.
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Postby Spidey-Man » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:37 am

Year One

DKR...doesn't hold up
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Re: Which is better, The Dark Knight Returns, or Year One?

Postby Spidey-Man » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:38 am

chap22 wrote:utterly preposterous. take out the scenes Loeb straight stole from the Godfather, Silence of the Lambs, and Presumed Innocent, and the atmosphere and mob characters he borrowed from Miller's Year One, and all you have left is about 10 pages of Hush-esque bats vs. every villain in the gallery.

Yr 1 is FAR superior as an actual exercise in storytelling. and more enjoyable too.


I think Yr 1 is far superior as an actual exercise in storytelling

but TLH is more fun. I dont care where he "stole" stuff from.
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