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by **Anonymous62** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:55 pm

Who's the toughest in hand to hand combat?

I'll take Hercules. "Known Superhuman Powers: Hercules' principal power is his superhuman strength. As true immortals, the Olympian gods do not age and are not susceptible to disease. Although they can be wounded in battle, they cannot die by any conventional means, and have a rapid healing rate. Hercules has a greater resistance to physical injury than any other Olympian god except for Zeus, and possibly Neptune and Pluto. He can even survive unprotected in the vacuum of space for a brief period of time. Only an injury of such magnititude that it incinerated him or dispersed a major portion of his bodily molecules could kill Hercules. In at least some such cases, Zeus or one of the other gods might still be able to resurrect him.

Hercules is virtually tireless. His supernaturally enhanced musculature produces no fatigue poisons.

Abilities: As Olympus's greatest warrior, Hercules is highly expert in traditional means of hand-to-hand combat, as well as in wrestling.

Weapons: The club was supplanted by his current weapon, his Golden Mace, which is not actually made of gold but was forged by the god Hephaestus from enchanted adamantine, the legendary substance after which Dr. Myron MacLain named his artificially created adamantlure. The Mace is therefore virtually indestructible, and has survived direct blows from Thor's hammer." http://www.marveldirectory.com/individu ... rcules.htm

by **mumah** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:48 pm

Hulk hands down.

by **Anonymous62** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:44 pm

mumah wrote:Hulk hands down.

If you really thought that, you'd vote for him. I'm adding the Incredible One in February!

by **mumah** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:55 pm

Johnny O wrote:If you really thought that, you'd vote for him. I'm adding the Incredible One in February!

Forgot to vote. Fixed that.

by **Anonymous62** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:21 pm

mumah wrote:Hulk hands down.

I thought the same thing until I talked to Stan Lee at a Con one time. He said they are physical equals, but Herc would use his superior skill (developed from thousands of years of combat experience) and magic adamantium mace to put Hulk's brains on the floor before he had time to get mad.

by **mumah** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:40 pm

Back then, maybe, but I don't think Herc and the Hulk are physical equals anymore.

by **Zenguru** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:08 pm

Thor. Not only does he have strength, and warrior skill, and weapons, he can also call lightning bolts from the sky.

And he can smite. No one else can do that.

by **Anonymous62** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:17 pm

mumah wrote:Back then, maybe, but I don't think Herc and the Hulk are physical equals anymore.

This is an interesting theory.

by **Anonymous62** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:21 pm

Zenguru wrote:Thor. Not only does he have strength, and warrior skill, and weapons, he can also call lightning bolts from the sky. And he can smite. No one else can do that.

He's my all-time fav character so I won't disagree. What definition of smite are you using?

1. to strike or hit hard, with or as with the hand, a stick, or other weapon: She smote him on the back with her umbrella.
2. to deliver or deal (a blow, hit, etc.) by striking hard.
3. to strike down, injure, or slay: His sword had smitten thousands.
4. to afflict or attack with deadly or disastrous effect: smitten by polio.
5. to affect mentally or morally with a sudden pang: His conscience smote him.
6. to affect suddenly and strongly with a specified feeling: They were smitten with terror.
7. to impress favorably; charm; enamor: He was smitten by her charms.
–verb (used without object)
8. to strike; deal a blow.
—Idiom

by **Zenguru** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:56 pm

Johnny O wrote:He's my all-time fav character so I won't disagree. What definition of smite are you using?

1. to strike or hit hard, with or as with the hand, a stick, or other weapon: She smote him on the back with her umbrella.
2. to deliver or deal (a blow, hit, etc.) by striking hard.
3. to strike down, injure, or slay: His sword had smitten thousands.
4. to afflict or attack with deadly or disastrous effect: smitten by polio.
5. to affect mentally or morally with a sudden pang: His conscience smote him.
6. to affect suddenly and strongly with a specified feeling: They were smitten with terror.
7. to impress favorably; charm; enamor: He was smitten by her charms.
–verb (used without object)
8. to strike; deal a blow.
—Idiom

1,2,3, and 8.

by **Anonymous62** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:42 pm

Zenguru wrote:1,2,3, and 8.

If you're right about "3. to strike down, injure, or slay: His sword had smitten thousands." his ability to do that to the Hulk, then the Hulk is in trouble. I do think the Hulk is bigger and stronger than he used to be. He used to be 7 ft. tall and weigh 1,040 lbs., a little bit bigger and stronger than the Thing and they would go 15 rounds all the time. Now it seems like at least in terms of non-gods, he's in a league of his own in terms of size and strength. He's huge! :shock: