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by **Doc Jon** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:28 pm

In anticipation for the new Avengers film, I figured it's time to pit some Avengers against one another...

...Outhouse style.

Rules will most likely become necessary with time, since you guys like to be smart asses and figure out silly little nerd loopholes to the engagments rather than simply discuss them as presented. :-D

So Captain America (Steve Rogers) versus Hawkeye (Clint Barton), with their normal gear in an urban battlefield.

by **Nacmir** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:35 pm

I'll go with Hawkeye, for being more versatile.

by **Dragavon** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:36 pm

Cap kicks Barton's ass in under 10 seconds.

by **Strict31** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:41 pm

Hasn't Cap already beaten Hawkeye?

Cap routinely beats crowds of guys who all have guns. I realize that a gun doesn't have quite the muzzle velocity, rate-of-fire and stopping power of a...longbow...but still.

by **Doc Jon** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:42 pm

Dragavon wrote:Cap kicks Barton's ass in under 10 seconds.

Seems unlikely.

Hawkeye certainly has the edge with distance. And I would love for the people that argue that a bow and arrow being impractical in a superhero world defend using a shield...

by **Strict31** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:46 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
Seems unlikely.

Hawkeye certainly has the edge with distance. And I would love for the people that argue that a bow and arrow being impractical in a superhero world defend using a shield...

Ask some riot police, maybe.

by **Nacmir** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:53 pm

Strict31 wrote:
Ask some riot police, maybe.

I thougth Police used shields for riot control just because they can't realy attack the crowd without that attack itself causing more riots. From a tactical point of view, their shields work different than Caps' one.
I think Clint works there as Arsenal would work: Proficent with many weapons, including Cap's shield.

by **Benderbrau** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:05 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
Seems unlikely.

Hawkeye certainly has the edge with distance. And I would love for the people that argue that a bow and arrow being impractical in a superhero world defend using a shield...

No but what good is a bow and arrow against a man with the ability to block it?

by **Rockman** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:06 pm

Cap, no doubt about it.

Aside from the impenetrable shield he's perfected the use of (the perfect defense to an arrow, and a good long range offensive weapon too) Cap is the peak of human conditioning. He's as strong as any human could possibly be, he's as fast.... and let's not forget he's a tactical genius as well.

The only Hawkeye could possibly win this is if he were running around as giant man again, but I imagine that Cap would still be able to take him down.

by **Benderbrau** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:07 pm

Strict31 wrote:
Ask some riot police, maybe.

Or some Roman soldiers*

*Time machine not included

by **Nacmir** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:12 pm

Benderbrau wrote:Or some Roman soldiers*

*Time machine not included

That's a perfect example of modern shield use, but Romans didn't throw then around. Things can't be weapon and shield at the same time, so each and every time he uses it as a weapon, there goes the shield. Clint is inbalanced in that area by nature and that's his edge, that and throwing stuff pretty good.

by **habitual** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:12 pm

This would be close, Cap has trained Hawkeye in hand to hand combat, but, the super soldier serum gives the edge to Rogers.

Hab

by **BlueStreak** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:23 pm

Does Cap's normal gear include a cloaked Helicarrier full of Avengers?

If so, I choose Cap.

If not, I still choose Cap.

by **Benderbrau** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:32 pm

Nacmir wrote:That's a perfect example of modern shield use, but Romans didn't throw then around. Things can't be weapon and shield at the same time, so each and every time he uses it as a weapon, there goes the shield. Clint is inbalanced in that area by nature and that's his edge, that and throwing stuff pretty good.

But Cap does't have to throw it at all. He just needs to use it to block Clit's(I know what I said) range attacks until he can get in close enough for hand to hand combat where he's the superior fighter.

by **Cat-Scratch** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:35 pm

Doc Jon wrote:In anticipation for the new Avengers film, I figured it's time to pit some Avengers against one another...

...Outhouse style.

Rules will most likely become necessary with time, since you guys like to be smart asses and figure out silly little nerd loopholes to the engagments rather than simply discuss them as presented.

So Captain America (Steve Rogers) versus Hawkeye (Clint Barton), with their normal gear in an urban battlefield.

What a stupid question. :roll: