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[Benderbrau]

Yeah I had a lot up to level 30-something, almost none after 40, or at least none that compared to the SMGs I could get.

The best SMG I've found only did 50 points damage. The only plus about it was that it had a 2.4 zoom.

[Benderbrau]

Something I wish Borderlands had taken from Diablo was the idea that modifiers that your character got from skills would show up. Like for example: the soldier has a skill that increases damage of the weapons. But the number value for the weapon damage doesn't change. So you really have no idea how much more damage you're doing. Stuff like that.

[S.F. Jude Terror]

The best SMG I've found only did 50 points damage. The only plus about it was that it had a 2.4 zoom.

Well, the best one you've found, that settles it I guess.

[Benderbrau]

Well, the best one you've found, that settles it I guess.

Best I've found running two characters. You'd think one of them would stumble across an SMG worth keeping.

[S.F. Jude Terror]

Most of the SMGs I've been coming across at 45+ do about 100-120 damage (sometimes doubled with a x2 projectile modifier), and have firing rates of 12-16 with a magazine of 40-70.

Most of the assault rifles have damage of about 120-180, but they fire in three shot bursts, or have magazine of 16, or have slow fire rates. The SMGs are almost universally superior.

[misac]

I still have yet to find a reason to carry an SMG. Combat Rifles can do all the same things and do more powerful damage too.

They have better recoil though.

[misac]

They have better recoil though.

And it's good to have one around in case I run out of combat rifle ammo.

[S.F. Jude Terror]

They have better recoil though.

It's also a matter of how you use it, if your character stands back behind cover a lot and picks people off, a Combat Rifle might be better, but when you have to run in guns blazing like I do with the siren, there's nothing better than an SMG and a Shotgun. The fact that I can empty 70 bullets in 5 seconds into someone's head makes a big difference.

[misac]

It's also a matter of how you use it, if your character stands back behind cover a lot and picks people off, a Combat Rifle might be better, but when you have to run in guns blazing like I do with the siren, there's nothing better than an SMG and a Shotgun. The fact that I can empty 70 bullets in 5 seconds into someone's head makes a big difference.

That's how I play with her too. I was mostly just using a machine pistol and SMG but started up with a shotgun last night. It does ok damage but it fires pretty fast.

[Alchemic_Spider]

What's the fun level with this game. As a fan of COD multiplayer games would this appeal to me?

[Benderbrau]

What's the fun level with this game. As a fan of COD multiplayer games would this appeal to me?

It's all about multiplayer. You can play it solo but the game provides definite bonuses to play co-op. Also the game randomly generates weapon classes and types which means there are probable over 200,000 more weapons then COD will ever have.

[Alchemic_Spider]

It's all about multiplayer. You can play it solo but the game provides definite bonuses to play co-op. Also the game randomly generates weapon classes and types which means there are probable over 200,000 more weapons then COD will ever have.

I may pick this up next week.

[S.F. Jude Terror]

What's the fun level with this game. As a fan of COD multiplayer games would this appeal to me?

It's not a deathmatch type mutiplayer. It's co-op. The game is very much like diablo in a first person shooter, in that the concept of dungeon raiding and loot gathering is the motivator, but with guns.

[Benderbrau]

I may pick this up next week.

Yes you should

[Benderbrau]

It's not a deathmatch type mutiplayer. It's co-op. The game is very much like diablo in a first person shooter, in that the concept of dungeon raiding and loot gathering is the motivator, but with guns.

Lots of guns.










Lots and lots of guns