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[Spidey-Man]

Yeah, now that my brother in law is in Customs and Border Protection, the stories he tells, it's a real eye opener.

[Spidey-Man]

That's a reach. There was 7 years in between attacks during the first bombing of the World Trade Center.

Nothing is obvious.

Hab

Of course, they had yet to declar war on us, and we had yet to retaliate. That incident, while not isolated, was not connected to a specific campaign, a specific war.

One would expect when you declare war, and when you get attacked, one would counter attack

Not to mention various attacks have been stopped in the planning stages

and of course, manyh people have been turned away from the country who previously would not have been.

[jza1218]

Yeah, now that my brother in law is in Customs and Border Protection, the stories he tells, it's a real eye opener.

Yep. He tells me that there is never a time when we're NOT on alert. He lives near a major waterway so there's a lot of things to keep on top of

[habitual]

Considering Bin Laden was responsible for Cole, I would disagree.

I wouldn't. An attack on the military is entirely different than civilians.

Hab

[Spidey-Man]

The U.S.S. Cole is not analagous to 9/11 and the first bombing is even pushing it.

Hab

You don't see them as a indication of something to nip in the bud before it gets worse?

The chest pain before the heart attack?

The leak before the dam breaks?

[The Juan Percenter]

I wouldn't. An attack on the military is entirely different than civilians.

Hab

An attack is an attack. I would think it would be a lot easier to pick up on a military attack than a civilian attack to boot.

[habitual]

You don't see them as a indication of something to nip in the bud before it gets worse?

The chest pain before the heart attack?

The leak before the dam breaks?

If I thought your analogy worked at all, maybe, but, it doesn't and I don't.

Hab

[Spidey-Man]

So various attacks are made and they are a symbol of no greater problem.

Bin Laden even makes an announcement that he is basically at war with us during the late 90s.

and yet, we shouldn't have been concerned? connected the dots? seen that something major existed that we were barely dealing with?

That makes no sense.

[habitual]

So various attacks are made and they are a symbol of no greater problem.

Bin Laden even makes an announcement that he is basically at war with us during the late 90s.

and yet, we shouldn't have been concerned? connected the dots? seen that something major existed that we were barely dealing with?

That makes no sense.

Let me repeat this for you, the U.S.S. Cole and the first attack on the World Trade Center are not analagous at all to 9/11 period. It's a simple point and makes complete sense to me, maybe not to you.

The only attack that is analagous in my opinion was Oklahoma city.

Hab

[Spidey-Man]

Let me repeat this for you, the U.S.S. Cole and the first attack on the World Trade Center are not analagous at all to 9/11 period. It's a simple point and makes complete sense to me, maybe not to you.

The only attack that is analagous in my opinion was Oklahoma city.

Hab

Except OK City was an isolated event. The other two were first steps at a greater event.

"This time we're going to bring them down." The follow-up in the same place is not a coincidence.

While the Cole was not on a civilian target, it was an attempt of Bin Laden at causing damage to us. Various try outs were used, in part no doubt to gauge our response.

Pearl Harbor was a military target too. So what? It meant we were at war with Japan.

These incidents were signs that there was something a lot bigger going on that we did not get.

Milton's point which you responded to was that those two incidents showed our guard was down long before we were hit on 9/11. and they do. Doesn't matter whether they were as big as 9/11.

[Woody]

Let me repeat this for you, the U.S.S. Cole and the first attack on the World Trade Center are not analagous at all to 9/11 period. It's a simple point and makes complete sense to me, maybe not to you.

The only attack that is analagous in my opinion was Oklahoma city.

Hab

huh?

[habitual]

These incidents were signs that there was something a lot bigger going on that we did not get.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. Being a precursor and analagous are two entirely different things.

Hab

[habitual]

huh?

Doh!

Hab

[Spidey-Man]

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. Being a precursor and analagous are two entirely different things.

Hab

Your point, then, seems unconnected to the post Milton made that you replied to.

[habitual]

Your point, then, seems unconnected to the post Milton made that you replied to.

Not at all, he was making a comparison, and I pointed out that I thought it was flawed.

Hab