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Re: Canadian, British, Swedish, Australian Posters...

Postby Spektre » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:49 pm

Thunderstorm wrote:How does the government function if they get no money? Or are we doing away with government completely?


Now you are catching on Thunderstorm.
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Re: Canadian, British, Swedish, Australian Posters...

Postby habitual » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:53 pm

You're falling behind Spek.

Thunderstorm wrote:Spectre, you might be the best PsyOps agent ever. Your anti-government, anti-tax ideas have managed to make me more pro-governemnt and pro-taxation than any other arguements I've ever heard.


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Re: Canadian, British, Swedish, Australian Posters...

Postby Thunderstorm » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:22 pm

Spektre wrote:
Now you are catching on Thunderstorm.


Assuming we are doing this in the US, in the modern world, starting tomorrow, and everyone has planned for this and it's all ready to go. There is no more United States. No more States. No more city government either, right? No more taxes, no more social services, no more regulations, no more laws, no more rights.

Who handles 9-11? Do we have a volunteer fire department go in and deal with this? Where do they get money for equipment and resources? Who maintains the fire hydrants? Who deals with the international aspects of this? Is it all Corporate? Because if it is, you're replaced the Goverment with big business.

What about Katrina? If this is a corporate controlled disaster, is it cost-effective to house low-income people who may not even be working? Is there a profit incentive to rebuild low-income neighborhoods? Is there any incentive at all to preserve the history or culture?

I really do want to know how these things would work.

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Re: Canadian, British, Swedish, Australian Posters...

Postby Spektre » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:30 pm

Thunderstorm wrote:
Assuming we are doing this in the US, in the modern world, starting tomorrow, and everyone has planned for this and it's all ready to go. There is no more United States. No more States. No more city government either, right? No more taxes, no more social services, no more regulations, no more laws, no more rights.

Who handles 9-11? Do we have a volunteer fire department go in and deal with this? Where do they get money for equipment and resources? Who maintains the fire hydrants? Who deals with the international aspects of this? Is it all Corporate? Because if it is, you're replaced the Goverment with big business.

What about Katrina? If this is a corporate controlled disaster, is it cost-effective to house low-income people who may not even be working? Is there a profit incentive to rebuild low-income neighborhoods? Is there any incentive at all to preserve the history or culture?

I really do want to know how these things would work.


Interesting. So you believe rights flow from government?
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Re: Canadian, British, Swedish, Australian Posters...

Postby Spektre » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:32 pm

ReturnoftheMack wrote:I didn't say anything about morality, just absolutes.


Say you live under a dictator that is killing your people. If you rise up against him, you are either a criminal or a revolutionary.

Sounds like you are talking about morality to me. :smt102 :smt102
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Postby Frag » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:37 pm

Spektre wrote:
Now you are catching on Thunderstorm.


So you are an anarchist.
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Postby Frag » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:38 pm

Spektre wrote:
Say you live under a dictator that is killing your people. If you rise up against him, you are either a criminal or a revolutionary.

Sounds like you are talking about morality to me. :smt102 :smt102


The example was one of many I could have used about the broader argument.
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Postby Spektre » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:39 pm

ReturnoftheMack wrote:
So you are an anarchist.


A minarchist. We have been through this.
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Postby Spektre » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:40 pm

ReturnoftheMack wrote:
The example was one of many I could have used about the broader argument.


Yes, but THIS is the one you used.
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Postby Frag » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:42 pm

Spektre wrote:
A minarchist. We have been through this.


You were a minarchist before you essentially abolished government in your last post.
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Re: Canadian, British, Swedish, Australian Posters...

Postby habitual » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:43 pm

Thunderstorm wrote:
Assuming we are doing this in the US, in the modern world, starting tomorrow, and everyone has planned for this and it's all ready to go. There is no more United States. No more States. No more city government either, right? No more taxes, no more social services, no more regulations, no more laws, no more rights.

Who handles 9-11? Do we have a volunteer fire department go in and deal with this? Where do they get money for equipment and resources? Who maintains the fire hydrants? Who deals with the international aspects of this? Is it all Corporate? Because if it is, you're replaced the Goverment with big business.

What about Katrina? If this is a corporate controlled disaster, is it cost-effective to house low-income people who may not even be working? Is there a profit incentive to rebuild low-income neighborhoods? Is there any incentive at all to preserve the history or culture?

I really do want to know how these things would work.


More importantly who's going to invite the jihadist over once we disband the Armed Forces?

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Postby Frag » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:43 pm

Spektre wrote:
Yes, but THIS is the one you used.


So what? If I had used a basketball example would we be talking about the Nuggets chances for the 8th seed?
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Postby Frag » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:47 pm

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More importantly who's going to invite the jihadist over once we disband the Armed Forces?

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Spektre believes that government's only role is protection so he'd keep the army. How he'd pay for it is the real question.
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Re: Canadian, British, Swedish, Australian Posters...

Postby Thunderstorm » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:50 pm

Spektre wrote:
Interesting. So you believe rights flow from government?


Some external entity would need to enforce your rights. What would stop a mega corporation from taking your land with an army of mercenaries?

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Re: Canadian, British, Swedish, Australian Posters...

Postby habitual » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:52 pm

ReturnoftheMack wrote:
Spektre believes that government's only role is protection so he'd keep the army. How he'd pay for it is the real question.


Whom would control it I imagine would be another.

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