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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Regulator » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:00 pm

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No, this is why...

It isn't how something is being perceived, it is how something IS.

Please consider the following statement. "I understand that you are saying you believe water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen, but Johnny thinks it is made of carbon and lithium. It seems arrogant to consider how you perceive water to be more valid than Johnny's."

If Johnny wants to be called Brenda I will be more than happy to oblige. I think anyone should be able to be called by the name he or she chooses. But words have meanings and there is simply no reason to use them inaccurately and reinforce a falsehood. I'm surprised at you Jude.


But what makes you the arbiter of what someone's feelings should be? What is it that causes people to be attracted to the same sex? Would you also say that the fact that a man has a penis means he should only have sex with a woman who has a vagina?

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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Spektre » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:02 pm

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But what makes you the arbiter of what someone's feelings should be? What is it that causes people to be attracted to the same sex? Would you also say that the fact that a man has a penis means he should only have sex with a woman who has a vagina?


Who said anything about deciding what a person's feelings should be? I have no problem with the person wanting to be the opposite sex.
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Thunderstorm » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:12 pm

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Who said anything about deciding what a person's feelings should be? I have no problem with the person wanting to be the opposite sex.


Other people implied it was said, so now people assume you said it. The discussion was whether a male was defined by a penis, but they can't argue that, so they make shit up. Just go with it.

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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Frag » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:52 pm

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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Frag » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:54 pm

I don't see what the big deal is about called her a her. Who cares?

Just be polite and respectful and call a transgender person whatever they want.
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Thunderstorm » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:47 am

She's not even here. And most of the people wanting everyone to be polite and respectful are never either. :roll:

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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:24 am

Thunderstorm wrote:She's not even here. And most of the people wanting everyone to be polite and respectful are never either. :roll:


If you hired me as your image consultant, I would suggest that you tone down the sulky aspect. I think Thunderstorm works better as a badass outlaw who says unpopular things and doesn't give a damn what people think about it.
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Thunderstorm » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:01 am

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If you hired me as your image consultant, I would suggest that you tone down the sulky aspect. I think Thunderstorm works better as a badass outlaw who says unpopular things and doesn't give a damn what people think about it.


I'm just saying she'll probably be happier in prison than dealing with the 'polite' people here.

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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:12 am

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I'm just saying she'll probably be happier in prison than dealing with the 'polite' people here.


Ok, that may be true. :lol:
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Spektre » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:49 am

ReturnoftheMack wrote:I don't see what the big deal is about called her a her. Who cares?

Just be polite and respectful and call a transgender person whatever they want.


Just another example of political correctness over ...well...correctness.
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Frag » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:56 am

Spektre wrote:
Just another example of political correctness over ...well...correctness.


Are you a doctor? Are you examining transgenders in some private practice? Are you a biologist? Who gives a shit what they want to be called? Just call them what they want?

If she wants to be Chelsea, call her that. If she wants to be a she, just call her that. Who cares if it's "wrong" biologically? Do you walk up to a transgender woman and ask if she's pre or post op?

"Hey you, let me check your junk before I choose a pronoun for you." :lol:
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Spektre » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:02 am

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Are you a doctor? Are you examining transgenders in some private practice? Are you a biologist? Who gives a shit what they want to be called? Just call them what they want?

If she wants to be Chelsea, call her that. If she wants to be a she, just call her that. Who cares if it's "wrong" biologically? Do you walk up to a transgender woman and ask if she's pre or post op?

"Hey you, let me check your junk before I choose a pronoun for you." :lol:


Actually pre or post op wouldn't change the conversation much. I call things what they are. I find its helpful to use language that way.
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Frag » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:05 am

Spektre wrote:
Actually pre or post op wouldn't change the conversation much. I call things what they are. I find its helpful to use language that way.


You're the type of guy who would tell their kids the truth about Santa Claus aren't you?
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby Spektre » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:34 am

Waitaminte. What's up with Santa now?

Never was a big fan of the big red fascist. Constant surveillance state. Unilaterally deciding who's naughty and who's nice.

Sounds a lot like the Obama administration.
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Re: "Chelsea" wants his "Dagger" removed.

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:35 pm

Spektre wrote:Waitaminte. What's up with Santa now?

Never was a big fan of the big red fascist. Constant surveillance state. Unilaterally deciding who's naughty and who's nice.

Sounds a lot like the Obama administration.


People are either naughty or nice. Santa doesn't make them so.

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