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by **Chris** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:02 pm

I thought Bane's voice was fine for someone speaking through some apparatus covering half their face.. it was just a little overly theatric and over the top, which was a little silly.. But I think maybe that's the point. Deception and theatricality - that's League of Shadows 101, according to Ra's Al Ghul.

by **avengingtitan** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:03 pm

Holland Oats wrote:I thought Bane's voice was fine for someone speaking through some apparatus covering half their face.. it was just a little overly theatric and over the top, which was a little silly.. But I think maybe that's the point. Deception and theatricality - that's League of Shadows 101, according to Ra's Al Ghul.

I just loved that voice. When you see a giant guy like that you dont expect that voice. If I was about to fight someone like that it would totally throw me off.

by **Starlord** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:05 pm

I didn't mind Bane's voice or Bale's either. It annoyed me in the first two movies but not so much the third one.

by **avengingtitan** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:09 pm

Starlord wrote:I didn't mind Bane's voice or Bale's either. It annoyed me in the first two movies but not so much the third one.

The only thing that ever bothered me about Bales voice was that he kept using around people that knew who he was. There was no need for him to use it around Blake or Catwoman when they were one on one.

by **sdsichero** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:14 pm

Holland Oats wrote:I thought Bane's voice was fine for someone speaking through some apparatus covering half their face.. it was just a little overly theatric and over the top, which was a little silly.. But I think maybe that's the point. Deception and theatricality - that's League of Shadows 101, according to Ra's Al Ghul.

He should have worn a more glittery outfit then.

by **avengingtitan** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:19 pm

sdsichero wrote:
He should have worn a more glittery outfit then.

He's Bane not Greg
:twisted:

by **draco x** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:25 pm

alaska1125 wrote:
Disagree. Batman and Robin didn't set the bar for anything except "Crappiest Movie Ever". Except for Halle Berry's Catwoman. You really can't compare the Nolan movies to those abortions.

You missed the point of what I was saying: Nolan's movies did a lot for Bane's character after that garbagefest from Shumacher and redeemed Catwoman's tarnished image after that awful Catwoman film with Halle. The funny thing is that people wanted Nolan to have brought a more popular bat villain such as the Riddler or the Penguin as the main villain but he took a less popular character like Bane and made him work when there were a lot of people doubting his decision. So what if Bane mumbled or couldn't be understood at times? At least he wasn't a grunting mindless goon like the first movie incarnation of him.

by **Keb** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:54 pm

He was still a goon which was disappointing.

by **Starlord** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:57 pm

Keb wrote:He was still a goon which was disappointing.

EXACTLY!!! And I walked out saying nearly those same exact words.

by **Keb** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:22 am

Said it in the car home.

by **draco x** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:51 am

Keb wrote:He was still a goon which was disappointing.

Not as disappointing as the way he got killed off though. I mean the fact that he was the main bad guy and then goes out so quickly after beating the shit out of Batman for the most part was stupid. Also, Talia was disappointing as well as she didn't do much when she was revealed. I understand that Nolan wanted to wrap up everything for the trilogy but he should have left Talia and Bane alive or have them get incarcerated as they both died lame deaths.

by **DeadFett** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:01 am

I saw it Saturday night and loved it. It wasn't as good as TDK for me but still a great movie. I thought Hardy was awesome as Bane. I never once had a difficult time understanding what he was saying. I also loved Hathaway as Selina. Thought she did a wonderful job in her role. My biggest complaint would be the very end.

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand

Bruce Wayne does not quit being Batman. He does not run off with Selina Kyle to live happily ever after. He's Batman to avenge the death of his parents. He would never quit that mission.Through two movies Nolan mentions a few times that Bruce Wayne is the mask, not Batman.

by **Chris** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:49 am

DeadFett wrote:I saw it Saturday night and loved it. It wasn't as good as TDK for me but still a great movie. I thought Hardy was awesome as Bane. I never once had a difficult time understanding what he was saying. I also loved Hathaway as Selina. Thought she did a wonderful job in her role. My biggest complaint would be the very end.
[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
Bruce Wayne does not quit being Batman. He does not run off with Selina Kyle to live happily ever after. He's Batman to avenge the death of his parents. He would never quit that mission.Through two movies Nolan mentions a few times that Bruce Wayne is the mask, not Batman.

That's kind of the point of what Alfred was trying to show him, though.. that his life was ruined by this crusade, and he had nothing to show for it but a broken body and no loved ones.

In Batman Begins, when he's on the plane with Alfred, he lays out his plan for being Batman.. he says it's meant to be a catalyst for change. He never wanted to be Batman forever. He just wanted to lay the foundation for lasting change with the citizens and police picking up where he leaves off, by creating a better city for everyone.

And he's always said the mask is just a symbol.. and in this one he says it doesn't matter who is in the suit - anyone can be Batman. All that said, I think it's clear that Nolan's version of Batman is meant to be more of a legacy type deal.

He did accomplish his mission - to create lasting change in Gotham. He achieved that by turning the Batman into what it should've been from the start - someone the city can look up to with both respect and fear. An he left it in good hands with Robin Blake taking over.

by **avengingtitan** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:18 am

Holland Oats wrote:
That's kind of the point of what Alfred was trying to show him, though.. that his life was ruined by this crusade, and he had nothing to show for it but a broken body and no loved ones.

In Batman Begins, when he's on the plane with Alfred, he lays out his plan for being Batman.. he says it's meant to be a catalyst for change. He never wanted to be Batman forever. He just wanted to lay the foundation for lasting change with the citizens and police picking up where he leaves off, by creating a better city for everyone.

And he's always said the mask is just a symbol.. and in this one he says it doesn't matter who is in the suit - anyone can be Batman. All that said, I think it's clear that Nolan's version of Batman is meant to be more of a legacy type deal.

He did accomplish his mission - to create lasting change in Gotham. He achieved that by turning the Batman into what it should've been from the start - someone the city can look up to with both respect and fear. An he left it in good hands with Robin Blake taking over.

Yea exactly. Not to mention that they go out of their way to explain that his body is failing him. His knees, elbows, and shoulders have no cartilage left. He has brain injuries from the explosions, etc. He realized that he cant keep doing it but that he could hand it to someone that could continue the mission.

by **iggy** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:52 am

avengingtitan wrote:
Yea exactly. Not to mention that they go out of their way to explain that his body is failing him. His knees, elbows, and shoulders have no cartilage left. He has brain injuries from the explosions, etc. He realized that he cant keep doing it but that he could hand it to someone that could continue the mission.

Seconded. This was a movie about the contrasts of a declining Bruce and a rising John. The point was hammered pretty clearly with Robin literally rising in the Batcave.

My biggest complaint about the ending was that he was left with all those toys and neither training nor an instruction manual.

Lastly, did I miss something or did we get no closure on the Holly front?