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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby Punchy » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:23 pm

Leviticus Payne wrote:
Explain what is convoluted other than listing storypoints. What about them makes it convoluted? I really don't get it.


Too much time-travel!

I know that sounds ridiculous for Doctor Who, but I really think that the Melody/River thing is too much for the show, and even if you think it's been explained now, it hasn't. How did she get to New York in the first place as a little girl? Was she sent there? It didn't look like it. How did she get from there to Leadworth? How did her life as 'Melz' work, did she not have parents there?

My hope is that Amy and Rory rescue the baby Melody and stop all of this from happening, as not only is it too confusing, but I find it stupid that they're just willing to accept their baby being raised by an evil cult just because.

It all looks very clever, but to me it's a house of cards and I think it's too confusing for what should be a show that appeals to kids too.

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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby Punchy » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:30 pm

Basically, I want more Rory punching Hitler and the hilarious jellyfish monsters and less wibbly-wobbly continuity bollocks.

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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby Dragavon » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:45 pm

This episode was decent. Except for a few things.

1. Hitler got treated as comedy relief.
2. Mels should have been around longer. This should maybe have happened later in the season, perhaps the last episode.
3. :smt011 at Amy giving up on her child.
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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby superfictious » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:03 am

So does this explain why the Doctor no longer regenerates?

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Re: Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby Chris » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:27 am

False Prophet wrote:So does this explain why the Doctor no longer regenerates?

Do you mean River? Then yes.
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Re: Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby superfictious » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:35 am

Leviticus Payne wrote:Do you mean River? Then yes.


No I mean the Doctor too, considering what happens in The Impossible Astronaut.

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Re: Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby nietoperz » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:12 am

False Prophet wrote:
No I mean the Doctor too, considering what happens in The Impossible Astronaut.


No - it has been established that if The Doctor is killed outright before the regeneration cycle completes then he is dead for good (witness 'Turn Left' when we see the Doctor's body after he died killing the Rachnoss under the Thames with no Donna Noble to pull him out in time). In 'The Impossible Astronaut' he starts to regenerate, but the Astronaut shoots him again before he is able to do so, thereby killing him outright.
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Re: Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby superfictious » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:13 pm

nietoperz wrote:
No - it has been established that if The Doctor is killed outright before the regeneration cycle completes then he is dead for good (witness 'Turn Left' when we see the Doctor's body after he died killing the Rachnoss under the Thames with no Donna Noble to pull him out in time). In 'The Impossible Astronaut' he starts to regenerate, but the Astronaut shoots him again before he is able to do so, thereby killing him outright.


Ah, ok. I understand now.

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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby Amoebas » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:20 pm

A great episode all around.

The only things I would have done differently would be to have Melz have a cameo back at their wedding and second, I would have added more time travel and continuity to make Punchy's head explode.

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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby The Old Doctor » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:26 pm

Melz was hot.

But this episode threw a bit of a spanner into the works as well as that one clue over again.

The clue is that time can be re-written. They've said it several times now since Matt Smith began as the Doctor.

The spanner is that it appears as though there are now only a limited number of regenerations again. But then, maybe that was River as she was not a true Time Lord.

Also, I thought it was creepy the way Robot Amy turned her head when she first rode up on the cycle.
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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby PDH » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:30 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:Also, I thought it was creepy the way Robot Amy turned her head when she first rode up on the cycle.


They should keep that thing around. It could come in handy if someone has to be perceived as being murdered, say.

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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby Lord Ice » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:39 pm

Nice holographic cameos of past companions, great response with the Donna one.

But who on the show is a big Mike Nichols fan?
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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby The Old Doctor » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:42 pm

PDH wrote:
They should keep that thing around. It could come in handy if someone has to be perceived as being murdered, say.


I was wondering what happened to it. The owners did not blow it up or such. So DID the Doctor and company keep it? I suspect so.
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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby Strict31 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:47 pm

I have a question:

So in this episode, Melody Pond is in her early twenties when she regenerates, and takes on the appearance of a woman in her late 40s.

She has no more regenerations allowed to her.

Ignoring for a moment her death in the Library, in theory, would she live out the lifespan of a person in her 20s? Or would she live out the lifespan of a person in her late 40s? Would she visibly and physically age? Or would she remain the same appearance and at the same level of physical ability throughout the rest of her Time Lord lifespan?

I don't really have a grasp on how Time Lords age.
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Re: Doctor Who Thread

Postby Strict31 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:50 pm

PDH wrote:
They should keep that thing around. It could come in handy if someone has to be perceived as being murdered, say.


Well, presumably, the Flesh biotech is still out there as well.
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