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Grayson

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Postby Grayson » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:25 pm

john lewis hawk wrote:The Daleks suck.


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john lewis hawk

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Postby john lewis hawk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:43 pm

Grayson wrote:

I am definitely not watching that clip. They're so annoying and come off as some of the most ineffective villains out there.
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Grayson

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Postby Grayson » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:44 pm

john lewis hawk wrote:I am definitely not watching that clip. They're so annoying and come off as some of the most ineffective villains out there.


You're an ineffective villain. :x :P
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john lewis hawk

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Postby john lewis hawk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:49 pm

Grayson wrote:
You're an ineffective villain. :x :P

I know. I'm an anti-hero. You think I'm the villain of this film until I steal back the money the femme fatale stole and give it to a children's hospital while hitting on every nurse there.
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Rob Thompson

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Postby Rob Thompson » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:25 pm

john lewis hawk wrote:I know. I'm an anti-hero. You think I'm the villain of this film until I steal back the money the femme fatale stole and give it to a children's hospital while hitting on every nurse there.

Actually if you do not like the Daleks, you are comic relief.
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David Bird

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Postby David Bird » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:13 pm

The Daleks are kind of like Darth Vader in that they've lost their ability to inspire fear due to their familiarity. Maybe if they knocked off a couple of companions they'd regain some credibility.
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Amoebas

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Postby Amoebas » Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:01 am

David Bird wrote:The Daleks are kind of like Darth Vader in that they've lost their ability to inspire fear due to their familiarity. Maybe if they knocked off a couple of companions they'd regain some credibility.

I love the Daleks but I think they are more like Doctor Doom in that they show up too often and are usually defeated each time.

What good is a villain that always loses... a lot?
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misac

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Postby misac » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:36 am

HNutz wrote:
Yeah, they're all getting a little watered down & predictable.

It was cool seeing the Daleks twice under Ecclestion. And then when they fought with the Cybermen during Tennant's run. They were scary ass mofos.

But then they appeared a few more times under Smith, they get casually tossed around in the 50th Anniversary special, they appeared in Smith's farewell & ads show them in the new run.

It's not exciting or scary seeing them anymore.

Kinda surprised that the Master didn't appear in Smith's run.


I think since they didn’t have a major story had more to do with it.

PDH

penile prisoner

Postby PDH » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:28 pm

Hate to say this but I think RTD basically killed them. Once the Doctor has destroyed entire armies of millions of Daleks too many times, it's hard to take them seriously after that. I realise that this insight isn't original to me but I think it's basically correct.

A small number of Daleks can be much more threatening than a CGI army of them that gets immediately waved away by a deus ex machina. I don't know how they can put that genie back in the bottle now.

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Postby The Old Doctor » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:45 pm

The Daleks are like the Borg in Star Trek. The big bad force of nature war machine. And they get over used, powered up to insane levels and then depowered down. I think the only good Dalek era was when they were at civil war with one another and when that race of androids were at war with them.

I'd rather see an exploration of the enemies of them as well as those of the other classic baddies. That and an answer to the Cybermen races. As it is, the Cyberman have become just as convoluted even without the alternate Earth version having invaded. All those tombs...
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David Bird

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Postby David Bird » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:13 pm

The last episode in which they were the primary villain (Asylum) was a great episode in itself, but raised to many stupid questions! For me the worst was how easily they infiltrated the Earth in order to round up Amy and Rory. If they can be that subtle and sophisticated, then why aren't they? Honestly, they should have taken over by now.

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penile prisoner

Postby PDH » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:15 pm

Maybe if we saw them attack someone OTHER than humans and maybe win for a change, they could be a bit more threatening? Like, say they invaded the Sontarans or something.

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penile prisoner

Postby PDH » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:41 pm

Having said that, this latest Dalek episode was pretty good!
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john lewis hawk

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Postby john lewis hawk » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:31 pm

David Bird wrote:The last episode in which they were the primary villain (Asylum) was a great episode in itself, but raised to many stupid questions! For me the worst was how easily they infiltrated the Earth in order to round up Amy and Rory. If they can be that subtle and sophisticated, then why aren't they? Honestly, they should have taken over by now.

That was really a missed opportunity. Insane villains is always a great thing for stories but it was setting up Clara and the Daleks were more broken than crazy or evil.

The Old Doctor

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:41 pm

He seems to be almost playing like a mix of Tom Baker and William Hartnell.

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