Jubilee wrote:The thing is Achilles, you come out with this stuff about mental health now, but the last time there was a massacre in the US you turned the thread on it here into a thread about what guns you like to use with another user (Snug)
That is the type of person I see you as. Someone who likes guns and has learned all these facts about mental health not because he really believes it, but because you want to keep firing your toys.
You can go on about "In Japan 20 people were injured through knives" but at the end of the day a gun is a LOT more deadly than a knife. This guy shot over 100 rounds of ammunition at kids. He wiped out an entire class room.
Would you rather a guy come at you with a knife or shoot you?
There is NO need for any semi auto gun. There is no need to own more than one gun.
I am sickened by the "Pro gun" people in the US. I'm not talking about the people who own guns and are pro gun laws but are sensible about it. I'm talking about the people whose lives are ruled by the ideas there precious gun laws are taken away at any second. That would hear this news and think to themselves "Oh shit this is going to look bad for gun owners" rather than think about the tragedy.
These children are dead because of guns.
I don't really care what you see me as, I don't value your opinion. As it happens though, I happen to know the mental health issues and laws and have for years as a result of family working in the field. Your false assumptions about me notwithstanding. As for your question, it depends on the range. Neither is good, and both are likely to result in death or serious injury. That said, there's a slim chance of survival if you keep your wits about you and know what you're doing in either case, but with a knife at close range, you will get hurt, probably very badly even if you survive, no matter how good you are.
In terms of range, at distances under 21 feet, on average, a person with a knife can close the gap and kill even a person who is armed before that person can react. If you doubt the deadliness of knives, merely look to CHINA, (which is not Japan BTW), where knife massacres of children are frequent far beyond the single case I mentioned.
You seem to understand nothing about either guns or the mental health picture in the US. And really don't even have a say thankfully.
If the AMERICAN people want to decide to repeal the Second Amendment, fine, let them do so. But hopefully they can do so with the full understanding that it won't do a damn thing about this. Madmen bent on mass murder will still find guns in defiance of the law, or go to other means.
As for "Sensible", at least be honest. You wouldn't know "sensible" in terms of gun laws it they hit you in the face. You want a gun BAN, total and complete. Much like the people in the US like Bloomberg who are calling for such. Following the Democratic playbook of "never let a good crisis go to waste". If you came out and admitted that, I would have more respect for you, even though you'd still be horribly wrong.
As I pointed out, none of the MANY gun laws this guy violated stopped him. Or even gave him a moment's pause. Or any of the others who've done these deeds. Yet you, and the Dems, claim that somehow MORE gun laws would? Magically if you pass just one more law, a criminal will obey it? Do you not understand that by definition a criminal doesn't obey the law? Really, what planet are you living on? I want to go to the place where wishes and fairy dust make reality.
Achilles is the kind of evil that hollows out a volcano for a lair, and sends killer robots after his enemies.---Lord Simian