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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby 48THRiLLS » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:57 pm

As a casual Superman fan and someone who doesn't read his comics, I will go see this. The guy looks the role and it doesn't matter to me at all if he is British and I am not sure why it matters to anyone at all :smt017

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Jack Burton » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:22 pm

Punchy wrote:A British Superman?

Even as a Brit I'm uncomfortable with this, Superman is an American icon, and as such, should be portrayed by an American.


Eh. If an American can play Sherlock Holmes than a Brit can play Superman.

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Keb » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:37 pm

AMS wrote:The fact that Snyder is directing this though, right off the bat tells me I probably won't like it.

Yup.

After what Watchmen was and what it could have been, I won't pay to see this. I don't need a Superman softcore porn scene to invade my mind. As a director, Synder does some good things (visually, his movies are fantastic, I loved all the colours and visuals in 300), but the final product doesn't work.

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby MrBlack » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:43 pm

Keb wrote:Yup.

After what Watchmen was and what it could have been, I won't pay to see this. I don't need a Superman softcore porn scene to invade my mind. As a director, Synder does some good things (visually, his movies are fantastic, I loved all the colours and visuals in 300), but the final product doesn't work.

Watchmen was ultimately brought down by the weight of the source material. Snyder was going for a faithful retelling of the comic, and the film suffered for it. That said, the visuals were amazing (the opening montage is still one of the greatest things I have ever seen in a theater), and he could do a hell of a lot with Superman. I'm willing to wait and see.

As for the soft-core porn, that was in the original comic so I can't exactly blame Snyder for it.

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Regulator » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:47 pm

What could Watchmen really have been, besides 10 hours long?

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Timbales » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:53 pm

MrBlack wrote:


agreed

I think he did an admirable job with turning the source material into a movie.
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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Keb » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:14 pm

MrBlack wrote:Watchmen was ultimately brought down by the weight of the source material. Snyder was going for a faithful retelling of the comic, and the film suffered for it. That said, the visuals were amazing (the opening montage is still one of the greatest things I have ever seen in a theater), and he could do a hell of a lot with Superman. I'm willing to wait and see.

As for the soft-core porn, that was in the original comic so I can't exactly blame Snyder for it.

It was like four panels long and NOT set to Leonard Cohen music. Weren't a lot of shots of Nite Owl giving it to Silk Spectre. Shit was hella fucked up.

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Punchy » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:23 pm

bkthomson wrote:

Ok are you serious here? Just want to be sure. I understand what you are saying, though I do diagree, but I see your point so it is not something that I feel needs to debated until someone leaves. The outhouse is not the thunderdome. :)

Really I do not care what nationality the actor is as long as that person does a good job becoming that character in the movie and make me believe he or she embodies what is in the comics that is fine with me. Hugh Jackman is a good example of what I mean with his portrail of Wolverine.


Course I'm serious.

I don't have a problem with actors playing characters of different nationalities in general, but this is Superman, it's a special case.

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Greg » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:24 pm

Keb wrote:It was like four panels long and NOT set to Leonard Cohen music. Weren't a lot of shots of Nite Owl giving it to Silk Spectre. Shit was hella fucked up.


I didn't mind it. :smt102
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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Punchy » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:26 pm

Chris wrote:
But.. it's acting. Does it honestly matter to you that this guy has a British accent when he's on some late night talk show hyping the movie?

I mean, if he can't pull off a convincing American accent, then I can see your point.. but otherwise, it just seems like a really pointless complaint.

What matters is what is on the screen, not what's off.


What matters is that Superman is an American Icon and should be portrayed by an American. It's not about the acting, it's about the nature of this one character in particular. I don't have a problem with it when it's Batman or Spider-Man being played by Brits, because those characters aren't explicitly stated to stand for 'The American Way' and aren't constantly posed with the Stars and Stripes.

Superman is a special case.

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Greg » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:29 pm

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Punchy » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:31 pm

Greg wrote::lol:


How is that funny?

I can't believe I'm the only person who thinks this! I'm not even American!

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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Chris » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:33 pm

Punchy wrote:
What matters is that Superman is an American Icon and should be portrayed by an American. It's not about the acting, it's about the nature of this one character in particular. I don't have a problem with it when it's Batman or Spider-Man being played by Brits, because those characters aren't explicitly stated to stand for 'The American Way' and aren't constantly posed with the Stars and Stripes.

Superman is a special case.


That's ridiculous. I don't see why anyone would mix the CHARACTER and the ACTOR portraying him up outside of the movie.

It doesn't matter what Superman stands for. That wouldn't change just because some British guy is playing him. It's what actors do.

And realistically, the average joe probably wouldn't even know he's not American until they heard him doing an interview or something, assuming he can do a good American accent for the movie.
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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Chris » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:33 pm

Punchy wrote:
How is that funny?

I can't believe I'm the only person who thinks this! I'm not even American!


You're definitely not the only one thinking this, because I remember discussions about the same thing when there were British actors up for the role of Captain America. And the British angle has already been played up in news reports about Cavill's casting.

It's just a silly stance, regardless of who thinks it.
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Re: Henry Cavill is the new Superman.

Postby Keb » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:38 pm

Wasn't one of Superman's creators a Canadian?

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