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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:42 pm

dairydead wrote:I just find this completely insane that you supposed "progressives" are resorting to calling a dead woman a "cunt" because she was conservative. :lol: way to take the high road.


Well, they're right.
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nietoperz

The Goddamn Bat-min

Postby nietoperz » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:44 pm

I think they're calling her a cunt because she was appalling. I mean, her conservatism is immaterial: if Sir Geoffrey Howe died tomorrow, he would not be reviled so and he was her Chancellor. We're talking about a woman who was an outspoken ally of Pinochet and Saddam Hussein, backed the apartheid regime in South Africa and called nelson Mandela a terrorist, all while dismantling the unions and destroying industry in the North of England and Scotland. She was a blight: that she is dead does not make her any less so.
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dairydead

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Postby dairydead » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:45 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:
Way to generalize and try to put words in people's mouths!


did you miss the several "cunt"s earlier in the thread? And I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with her political views. :lol:
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Drcharles

crash test dummy

Postby Drcharles » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:46 pm

nietoperz wrote:
No it wasn't. It was actually a geographical term first used in Anglo-Saxon times to differentiate the mainland from smaller bodies such as the Channel Islands. 'Great Britain' refers to England, Scotland and Wales - not, crucially, Northern Ireland - because that is specifically the mainland. The country is called the United Kingdom.

Just a bit of geopolitical history for you. Don't mind me.


I didn't know that, thanks,

I don't have an extensive political, historical an grammatical knowledge, but being called a 'pseudo-patriot' sort of makes me feel either I should dare not say anything Nationalistic or have Patriotic opinions because I happened to be of English origin.

I happen to like the idea that Great Britain was referred to that because of the grandeur of the Empire.
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dairydead

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Postby dairydead » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:47 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:LOL at the phrase "actual historian".

You're too young for your opinion to count, Dairy, but quite I'm sure you do have friends who'd have fallen for that one.


:lol: you're trying really hard on this one, i didn't even state my opinion. You think I'm lying?
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:48 pm

dairydead wrote:
did you miss the several "cunt"s earlier in the thread?


Yeah, I haven't quite read the whole thread yet, I wasn't sure what you were talking about.

The high road is overrated. Fuck those cunts on the high road!
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:48 pm

dairydead wrote:
:lol: you're trying really hard on this one, i didn't even state my opinion. You think I'm lying?


What? Not at all. Quite the opposite.
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dairydead

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Postby dairydead » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:49 pm

nietoperz wrote:I think they're calling her a cunt because she was appalling. I mean, her conservatism is immaterial: if Sir Geoffrey Howe died tomorrow, he would not be reviled so and he was her Chancellor. We're talking about a woman who was an outspoken ally of Pinochet and Saddam Hussein, backed the apartheid regime in South Africa and called nelson Mandela a terrorist, all while dismantling the unions and destroying industry in the North of England and Scotland. She was a blight: that she is dead does not make her any less so.


I just find it appaling to call anyone a "cunt". :smt102 especially over things like unions.
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nietoperz

The Goddamn Bat-min

Postby nietoperz » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:52 pm

dairydead wrote:
I just find it appaling to call anyone a "cunt". :smt102 especially over things like unions.


To be fair, though, the word is much more prevalent in English English than American English.
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dairydead

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Postby dairydead » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:52 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:
What? Not at all. Quite the opposite.


I'm just saying, one of my closest friends has a PhD in 20th Century American History, and still views Reagan as a good (but flawed) President. I'm not saying his opinion should matter by virtue of existing, all I'm saying is that legitimate people with legitimate historical learning share the opinion of "alt-historians"
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dairydead

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Postby dairydead » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:52 pm

nietoperz wrote:
To be fair, though, the word is much more prevalent in English English than American English.


interesting.
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David Bird

rubber spoon

Postby David Bird » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:54 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:LOL at the phrase "actual historian".

You're too young for your opinion to count, Dairy, but quite I'm sure you do have friends who'd have fallen for that one.


Interesting point. How old are you, Dairy? What do you actually remember versus what you've heard in the media?
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Drcharles

crash test dummy

Postby Drcharles » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:54 pm

dairydead wrote:
I just find it appaling to call anyone a "cunt". :smt102 especially over things like unions.


I don't know what Conservatives/Tories would call dead Socialist ex-Leaders of a Nation, perhaps they would find a more refined name…….
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David Bird

rubber spoon

Postby David Bird » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:55 pm

By alt-historians I meant the talking heads working tirelessly to have him remembered as a great president.
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nietoperz

The Goddamn Bat-min

Postby nietoperz » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:56 pm

I think Dairy is 26, which (scarily) means he was two when Reagan left office.

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