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by **DeadFett** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:56 am

Lord Simian wrote:Are you referring to the legends of his signing?

Supposedly, and I've never seen him at a con to confirm.... but if you ask him to sign a trade, he'll whip out a rubber stamp, saying "a reprint autograph for a reprint work".

What a dick.

by **Keb** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:17 am

I think it's D-Mac who actually had that happen to him.

If it was me, I would have caused a scene.

I think I might do that if he's ever in town

by **kingbobb** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:49 am

I know Liefeld takes a lot of flack for his art style, but the simple truth is that there is not only a large market for his style, but it's large enough to have spawned several copycat artists. His mechanics and proportions are out of whack...I can't say they stink, because he can draw better than 90% of us at the ourhouse...but it's not like only hyper-realistic artists are in demand. Keith Giffen, Mike Mignola, Bill Sienkowicz, Norm Greyfoggle, just to name a few, are all artists with styles that are exaggerated in some way. You won't find much of their works in a book about precise proportions or realistic form. But they all are excellent artists that have been in demand at one time or another. Liefeld's style is far more cartoony and perhaps exemplifies the 90s attitude, but for certain types of stories, it works.

Still, I'd much rather prefer to be stuck in an elevator with Liefeld. I don't think Byrne would deign to speak to me, while Liefeld probably has some fun in-business stories to tell. From his public interaction, Byrne would spend the whole time complaining.

by **nietoperz** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:51 am

Keb wrote:I think it's D-Mac who actually had that happen to him.

Someone didn't read through the whole thread!

by **Zenguru** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:12 pm

Lord Simian wrote:Are you referring to the legends of his signing?

Supposedly, and I've never seen him at a con to confirm.... but if you ask him to sign a trade, he'll whip out a rubber stamp, saying "a reprint autograph for a reprint work".

With me, it was a Days of Future Past trade. I would have tossed it, but I had it signed (hand signed) by Terry Austin a few years later. I still tell people at GCom's about that story occasionally. Then I sit back and watch the eyes roll. All of 'em say the same thing about Byrne: "What a dick."

by **Zenguru** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:14 pm

Keb wrote:I think it's D-Mac who actually had that happen to him.

If it was me, I would have caused a scene.

I think I might do that if he's ever in town

Yeah, I plagiarized myself. I'm now in discussion with lawyers about how I can sue myself.

And win BIG.

by **Keb** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:50 pm

nietoperz wrote:Someone didn't read through the whole thread!

Well half of it is PEOPLE TALKING IN CAPITAL LETTERS so of course I didn't.

I just remember someone with a story about a rubber stamp. I would rubber stamp a mudhole in his ass if he did that to me.

by **GCom** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:09 pm

john lewis wrote:ATTACK ME, BYRNEROBOTICS PEOPLE!!!

Can I ask what brought this on? If I'm to stand with you, I need to know what happened. I don't consider you t be the most.. uh ... "stable"... person I've met on the internet.

And if there IS to be a fight, I want in on it.

Now paging Rod Odom...

With Tolerance For What Is To Come...

GCom

by **fieldy snuts** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:48 pm

lmao @ rod odom. he'd defend byrne even if he torched a school full of retarded children.

by **Zenguru** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:53 pm

Vic Mackey wrote:lmao @ rod odom. he'd defend byrne even if he torched a school full of retarded children.

Especially if they were taught by a blonde latina.

by **Keb** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:57 pm

and used Lost Girls as a textbook, asshole.

by **Lord Simian** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:13 pm

kingbobb wrote:I can't say they stink, because he can draw better than 90% of us at the ourhouse...

That's ludicrous. I can't play Saxophone to save my life, does that mean I can't say shitty players are shitty players, just cause they might understand the concept of how to play slightly better than me?

by **Keb** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:18 pm

I tried to find a picture of a monkey playing the saxophone but I couldn't

by **kingbobb** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:21 am

Lord Simian wrote:That's ludicrous. I can't play Saxophone to save my life, does that mean I can't say shitty players are shitty players, just cause they might understand the concept of how to play slightly better than me?

I never said you couldn't say you thought he was bad, so no, it's not ludicrous. It's art, and I think his sales would suggest that a goodly number of people do in fact like his style.

As for the analogy, I think Liefeld doesn't actually understand many concepts of traditional comic art. Nonetheless, he's able to produce comics that sell and people want to buy, despite being technically inept.