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LOLtron

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Postby LOLtron » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:06 pm

A flawed, but a good-natured and fun movie that makes Warner Bros. two for two this year in the superhero genre.




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Wow is this movie getting a TON of hate online. It's almost startling to see the amount of just venomous spew this movie is getting. You'd think this movie ran over a pony or something (not like that is wrong. I'd back up and make sure the job would be finished if that was the case. ESPECIALLY the Hasbro kind). But at the end of the day, Justice League isn't Suicide Squad (2016) or Man of Steel (2013) levels bad. It even rises above Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) mediocrity (but I confess I do love the ultimate cut of it). But the movie doesn't hold a candle to the earlier edition we had this year in Wonder Woman.

Instantly, the movie tells you outright it isn't going to be like the previous two entries with Superman (Henry Cavill in probably his best outing as the Last Son of Krypton). This movie reminds me so much of the pilot for Justice League. Every hero gets their moment and each is given a good chunk to have their time to shine. They even act as a team. You see what each brings to the table and why they're here. 

Yes, Warner Bros. plays the Marvel plan in having a mid-credit and end credit sequence (both of them you could tell had Geoff Johns behind and fuck it made me smirk both times). But hey, when Marvel created such a successful brand why bother anymore (other than controlling the quippage). But where they differ is honestly, is DC heroes have a rich and vast history in multi-media. When they hit that note (and they do in this film) your hooked. Marvel? They created the notes their making via their own films. 

Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa (who was only missing "OUTRAGEOUS!" to make the character portrayal perfection and maybe give this movie a perfect score if the line was said), and Ray Fisher. Each hero just captures and defines the hero they play. Even the two newbies on the block are just so damn likable and add much to the movie. Likewise, all the B players in Jeremy Irons, Diane Lane, Amy Adams, Connie NeilsenJ.K. Simmons (who I already love as Jim Gordon), and Joe Morton turn in some fine performances. 

But as I said. There are flaws in this movie. Cheif among them the special effects.  I just have to ask. What the hell happened to WETA? They used to be top notch in special effects. But since the Hobbit Trilogy, their orcs looked just so off. That same problem affects the lead villain in this Steppenwolf. If not for Ciarán Hinds doing a very nice job being a bastard in the role. That's what comes to me with the character. He's there just to be that foil since it would be kind of jarring given how many characters this film introduces (and it does it rather well giving all their moments). He just seems so goddamn out of place compared to the Parademons in this. The only other flaw I had with him is the fact that well. We never got final resolution with his character. You know where the character went and I kept expecting to see someone else show up (and if he was voiced by Michael Ironside this movie again would have gotten a perfect 5 out of 5). Sadly no and again a tiny slight against this film because of it.

The other is Ezra Miller as the Flash. No disrespect to the actor and his performance, but more to whoever is writing the character. The character in this film is sure as hell, not Barry Allen. It's freaking Wally West or for me Bart Allen.  There are moments were Miller shines (just by his expression alone. You'll know the scenes if you see the movie).

But his constant fanboy attitude and being so young. Well, it reminds me more of these Flashes and not Barry. Which just begs the question: why the hell doesn't Warner Bros. embrace the goddamn legacy of these characters? When the movie freaking teases it in the flashback of the alliance of Earth taking on Steppenwolf? I just hope that Flashpoint or whatever the hell movie we get is scuttled because honestly? I kind of don't want to see more of this character. I'd rather have more from Cyborg (the hell? I barely cared for him in the comics yet here and the old.. oh dear god it's old early 2000 Teen Titans cartoon they just did a good job with the character).

Still, even with these flaws, the movie holds up well. I kind of want to see it again because of it. Even dare I say, this is probably my second favorite superhero film this year (Wonder Woman has the top spot). Even then, this was a pretty remarkable year for superhero films. Each one brought something new and mostly unique to the table. Honestly, I think we should bash films when they deliver on the promises and just revel in the fact that we're in a very good age of superhero films (with more on the way). 

So how would I rate this film? I would give this a 3 but the fact that Danny Elfman used his Batman, Hans Zimmer/Junkie XL's Wonder Woman, and John Williams Superman themes. Yeah, that's gonna give it a whole point because you just can't but get hyped hearing all three themes together. Not only that, but I like the fact that now with this movie they're slowing the pace down. The path is laid out now. And where these films might go? I'm down. If Marvel goes with cosmic, then where these DC films go? BRING IT! Because if any clear flaw that Marvel has is its villains. Something these DC films honestly (save Suicide Squad and honestly this one to a degree) don't have. Each leaves an impact with you. Love/hate it. You'll remember the performance. So yeah. Haters gonna hate. I loved this movie. Fucking hell. I'll take the stand for loving this movie more than I should ever. 

 

4 out of 5



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chap22

Rain Partier

Postby chap22 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:15 pm

Jesus. Even by Zechs standards, Zechs is clearly DRUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNK.
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achilles

Silly French Man

Postby achilles » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:26 pm

chap22 wrote:Jesus. Even by Zechs standards, Zechs is clearly DRUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNK.


Drunk on them sweet, sweet My Little Ponies....

Here, Zechs, is the cast of Justice League, assembled:

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LoganRSA

FROGMAN

Postby LoganRSA » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:11 pm

+1 for correct use of "would have" instead of "would of".

But -75 for the rest of the grammar in this article. Christ, Zechs, is English your fifth language or something?





I'll give you another +1 for being bold enough to take on this assignment. Good man.
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Rebirth NoctourneM

Rain Partier

Postby Rebirth NoctourneM » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:33 pm

LoganRSA wrote:+1 for correct use of "would have" instead of "would of".

But -75 for the rest of the grammar in this article. Christ, Zechs, is English your fifth language or something?





I'll give you another +1 for being bold enough to take on this assignment. Good man.


Sounds like we've got a volunteer to edit Zechs' articles :lol:
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Zechs

Outhouse Editor

Postby Zechs » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:39 pm

These are all auto-corrected by Grammatically.com app that's in my Chrome window so really I am not to fully blame for this. My words are corrected by a site with the grammatical words that they deem fit. And each week I get a report from them that says I am 92% grammatically correct compared to others who use it.

So--- yes, English is my first language but at this point given it is November 17th and we're one week away from Thanksgiving. I give no fucks at all to grammar and let the damn app do whatever the fuck it wants. Because I wish to break it... Like I was broken all those years ago in college. Because if I am in constant pain over it. I will make sure everyone else will feel my pain every single day I breathe life.
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Beast In Show

Swedish Pinata of Death

Postby Beast In Show » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:08 am

Just got back from the show. My kids and their two friends loved it. Zechs review is spot on, the hate for this movie is completely unwarranted.

Sure it's flawed, but Great Scott! The cast is amazing.

Especially Superman, even with the dodgy lip lol. I can't wait to see it again.

:smt026


Oh, and see it in 3D!

zryson

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Postby zryson » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:43 am

Beast In Show wrote:Just got back from the show. My kids and their two friends loved it. Zechs review is spot on, the hate for this movie is completely unwarranted.

Sure it's flawed, but Great Scott! The cast is amazing.

Especially Superman, even with the dodgy lip lol. I can't wait to see it again.

:smt026


Oh, and see it in 3D!


I do agree that there seems to be an imbalance regarding Justice League. Sure there are lots of faults but there are also a lot of moments/scenes that will make fans smile
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(like the Superman v The Flash race), seeing Green Lantern in action etc.
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achilles

Silly French Man

Postby achilles » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:12 am

Zechs wrote:These are all auto-corrected by Grammatically.com app that's in my Chrome window so really I am not to fully blame for this. My words are corrected by a site with the grammatical words that they deem fit. And each week I get a report from them that says I am 92% grammatically correct compared to others who use it.

So--- yes, English is my first language but at this point given it is November 17th and we're one week away from Thanksgiving. I give no fucks at all to grammar and let the damn app do whatever the fuck it wants. Because I wish to break it... Like I was broken all those years ago in college. Because if I am in constant pain over it. I will make sure everyone else will feel my pain every single day I breathe life.


Good man, share your misery! Share the ponies! :P
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Tyr Stormbringer

Rain Partier

Postby Tyr Stormbringer » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:18 am

Yep critics are just being dicks about this movie and hating just for the sake of hating. I saw it Thursday night and it was a fun, action packed, comic book movie! Taking my son to see it again tomorrow, so he can enjoy it with me.
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SporkBot

Swedish Pinata of Death

Postby SporkBot » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:29 am

McMonkey Nut wrote:Yep critics are just being dicks about this movie and hating just for the sake of hating.


Or maybe they're giving it an honest shot and aren't as forgiving as some comic fans of its faults. They weren't "hating for the sake of hating" when they mentioned how bad BvS was, where they?

Besides, it's still early, so there's a chance the rating could change (one way or another).
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achilles

Silly French Man

Postby achilles » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:54 am

We'll see. I'm going to see it in 5D, so as to get the best experience. And if I give it the thumbs up, you'll know it has the scratch and sniff seal of approval.
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Chessack

Great Scott!!!

Postby Chessack » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:27 am

SporkBot wrote:Besides, it's still early, so there's a chance the rating could change (one way or another).


It's up to 40% critic on RT, still 86% user rating.
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Beast In Show

Swedish Pinata of Death

Postby Beast In Show » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:02 pm

SporkBot wrote:
Or maybe they're giving it an honest shot and aren't as forgiving as some comic fans of its faults. They weren't "hating for the sake of hating" when they mentioned how bad BvS was, where they?


What they hated about BvS and MoS isn't JL. The characterization is pitch perfect. Sure Barry is grafted with Wally/Bart/Peter Parker qualities but that's for narrative purposes and it works.

It never drags, great action sequences and Superman kicks so much ass in all the best ways. Cavill is so good, it's a shame Snyder couldn't get that characterization to the screen sooner.

I'd spoil some of his dialogue to make my point but honestly go see it for yourself. Even Kurosawa would approve of his performance.
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Beast In Show

Swedish Pinata of Death

Postby Beast In Show » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:17 pm

Oh and those Amazons in the leather bikinis? There were only a handful in that gear and there was a legit reason for it.

Don't make me spoil it. Go!

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