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"Legitimate" Rape?

Postby habitual » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:43 pm

This new term was introduced to me this morning thanks to GOP Senate Candidate Todd Akin.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79870.html?hp=lh_b4

Rep. Todd Akin’s damning statement that victims of “legitimate rape” rarely get pregnant is just the latest in a string of unforced errors by the GOP Senate candidate that has Republicans fretting about his chances of beating Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill.

And a loss in Missouri would almost certainly quash the party’s hopes of reclaiming the Senate majority.

In just over a week since securing the GOP nomination, Akin has doubled-down on likening student loans to socialism, questioned the value of voting rights laws, called for the end of the federal school lunch program and then — in an interview that made national headlines — openly speculated about the consequences of “legitimate rape.”


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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby Cat-Scratch » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:03 pm

My friend sent me this link over the weekend - http://gawker.com/5936050/republican-se ... imate-rape

I didn't get past the header and bother reading the article. Those two words do not belong together. :smt011

That is some serious stupidity with that guy for saying shit like that.
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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby holtom2000 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:39 pm

I'm very fiscally conservative but I have zero opinion on abortion. I feel unless you have a personal stake in the decision you should have no say. But this idiot... Can you not be drummed out of a party for saying something so stupid

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby LobsterJ » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:53 pm

holtom2000 wrote:I'm very fiscally conservative but I have zero opinion on abortion. I feel unless you have a personal stake in the decision you should have no say. But this idiot... Can you not be drummed out of a party for saying something so stupid


Drummed out of the party? This IS the party now.

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby habitual » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:08 pm

holtom2000 wrote:I'm very fiscally conservative but I have zero opinion on abortion. I feel unless you have a personal stake in the decision you should have no say. But this idiot... Can you not be drummed out of a party for saying something so stupid


The really scary part about this guys comments is that he co-sponsered a bill with Paul Ryan that would outlaw abortion with the exception of "forcible" rape, i.e. statutory rape victims would not be permitted to abort.

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby Psivage » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:03 pm

IIRC he said the women body protects them from getting rape pregnant.
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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby Timbales » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:18 pm

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby pastajoe » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:47 pm

What this issue shines a light on is the beliefs and actions of Paul Ryan, and the Ryan-Akin co-sponsored bill that affirms that from the moment of fertilization onward, “every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood.” It then says that Congress and the states have the “authority” to protect all human beings — again, defined as human life from fertilization onward — residing in their juristictions.

What that means is that Ryan wants to ban abortion even due to rape or incest, and would in effect ban in vitro fertilization since that procedure usually requires the destruction of embryos, which is as extreme anti-choice as one can get. In addition, Akin and Ryan had both co-sponsored another measure, that would distinguish “forcible rape” in banning abortion funding.

These are the type of extremists that Romney had to become "severely conservative" for to win the nomination, and would be the people he would be indebted to if he became president. He won the primary battle, but these are the "death by 1000 cuts" that are going to lose him the election among independents and moderates.

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby holtom2000 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:03 pm

Yeesh. You need a third party

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby GHERU » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:38 pm

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I Misspoke—What I Meant To Say Is 'I Am Dumb As Dog Shit And I Am A Terrible Human Being'

BY REP. TODD AKIN (R-MO)
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As a politician, I often find myself in situations where, unfortunately, I express a certain thought or idea poorly, or find my words taken out of context. Indeed, that is what happened this weekend. Upon reviewing the impromptu remarks I made Sunday afternoon, I can now see that I used the wrong words in the wrong way. I would now like to set the record straight with the American people and clear up some confusion about what it was I intended to convey.

You see, what I said was, “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” But what I meant to say was, “I am a worthless, moronic sack of shit and an utterly irredeemable human being who needs to shut up and go away forever.”

It is clear to me now that I did not choose my words with care and did not get across the point I was trying to convey. In hindsight, I guess instead of using the words “legitimate rape,” I should have used the words “I am an unforgivable, unrepentant, and unconscionable subhuman dickhead.” Or better yet, “I am an evil, fucked-up man who should never have been elected to the United States Congress, and anyone who would vote for me is probably a pretty big fucking dumbshit, too.” See how much more sense that makes? It’s amazing how a few key word changes can totally alter the meaning of a statement.

Because, of course, it’s all about context. And yes, when you take what I said out of context, I can see how it might sound like I’m denying that women can be impregnated via rape. This is, I assure you, not what I was trying to express at all. Such is the age we live in that one little sentence excerpted in a news report can come back to haunt a person in a pretty big hurry. But if you actually go back and look at the remarks closely, you’ll see that what I was actually trying to convey in my statement was that

(1) I am a big fucking idiot,

(2) I am a nauseating slug of a human being who doesn’t deserve to live, and

(3) I am essentially everything that’s wrong with this country and with humanity in general.

Honestly, that’s all I was trying to get across there. It was a simple misunderstanding, really.

It’s funny, because, in my head, I remember thinking very vividly, “I, Rep. Todd Akin, am a bigoted jackass who probably should not be alive, let alone in political office. People need to know what a terrible person I am so they will then remember to punch me in the face anytime they get the chance.” But when I opened my mouth and tried to articulate that thought, somehow I blurted out the thing about rape instead of just saying, in plain English, that I am awful, just purely and incontrovertibly awful.

Frankly, it’s hard not to make a mistake from time to time when you’re in the public eye as much as I am. I am constantly having to speak my mind in a public forum, and sometimes, when all I’m trying to say is something simple and inarguable, like, “Sweet Jesus, I am the worst person who has ever lived,” I wind up saying something completely different. It’s frustrating, really. Because I have a lot of very pertinent and very well-thought out things to say about how somebody should just smack me in the head with a goddamned cricket bat because of how brainless and insensitive I am, but instead my words just come out all jumbled.

I guess I just have a habit of putting my foot in my mouth! And for being the very worst that Western Civilization has to offer!

So let me take this opportunity to be very specific about what I meant Sunday, which was this: I am not a competent or respectable politician; I am, essentially, a subhuman monster of a prick, a prick as profoundly insensitive as he is monumentally unintelligent in every respect; somebody should apply dozens of layers of duct tape to my mouth every morning so that words are not able to exit my large, dumb, misogynist, imbecilic mouth at any point; I make the planet worse; I don’t know jack shit about any of the topics I spoke about in that interview, or about any topics at all, really; I should apologize every day to the women of the world, but doing so would most likely be an exercise in futility given my rock-bottom intellect and my complete and utter lack of human decency; I am, in no uncertain terms, not even worth the time it took you to read this.

That’s what I meant to say. Sorry for the confusion
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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby Space Otter » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:18 am

I always thought that the only "legitimate rape" was what Dan Didio, Joe Quesada and George Lucas did to fanboys' childhoods. There will certainly be no pregnancies resulting from those rapes, I figure that has to be what Akin was talking about.

In all seriousness though, I want to thank the Tea Party for ensuring that another Senate seat will remain safely in Democratic hands.

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby achilles » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:49 am

Guy's a moron, and the party is trying to get him to quit, and has dis-invited him to their convention. That was some really stupid shit. Utterly unbelievable that anyone could say that. He really hurt the Republicans there. Hopefully, he goes away and is never heard from again. That said, in the interest of equal opportunity, there are morons in both parties.

Take this guy, for example.

Just won his primary, and now both Republicans in the state, and Democrats want him out. But if that happens, he leaves the Dems in a bind, since they'd have to run candidates as write-ins.

There's the old adage about it sometimes taking being caught with a live boy or a dead girl to get a pol out of office, and this guy may be the one to prove it, (live boy in his case).

I think both parties need to do a little purging of their ranks...

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby achilles » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:53 am

Space Otter wrote:I always thought that the only "legitimate rape" was what Dan Didio, Joe Quesada and George Lucas did to fanboys' childhoods. There will certainly be no pregnancies resulting from those rapes, I figure that has to be what Akin was talking about.

In all seriousness though, I want to thank the Tea Party for ensuring that another Senate seat will remain safely in Democratic hands.


Why thank them? They want him out. Like right now. Which wing of the Democratic Party are you going to thank for the pervert I linked above?

Things like that aren't the party; they're just the morons you get when you have any large group of people.

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby habitual » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:04 am

achilles wrote:
Why thank them? They want him out. Like right now. Which wing of the Democratic Party are you going to thank for the pervert I linked above?

Things like that aren't the party; they're just the morons you get when you have any large group of people.


+4 for trying to hijack the thread.

No one cares :lol:

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Re: "Legitimate" Rape?

Postby The Shadow » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:44 am

habitual wrote:In just over a week since securing the GOP nomination, Akin has doubled-down on likening student loans to socialism, questioned the value of voting rights laws, called for the end of the federal school lunch program and then — in an interview that made national headlines — openly speculated about the consequences of “legitimate rape.”

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