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[The Juan Percenter]

I'm with you on Sabathia Melon. I don't trust the fatties either.

That's why we should have traded for Santana!

Thirded. I would like to add that I don't like fatties who have thrown a lot of inning the previous couple of years.

[statnut]

For the record, not a fan of Sabathia long term either. Strikes me as Bartolo Colon II. But the Tribe got a good haul for him when they traded him in similar circumstances.

[MoneyMelon]

For the record, not a fan of Sabathia long term either. Strikes me as Bartolo Colon II. But the Tribe got a good haul for him when they traded him in similar circumstances.

Definitely.

I don't want the Yanks to be the team paying the bill for this one in the end.

Making a rash decision to give away the farm system for a temporary solution is a bad idea, IMO.

[statnut]

Definitely.

I don't want the Yanks to be the team paying the bill for this one in the end.

Making a rash decision to give away the farm system for a temporary solution is a bad idea, IMO.

It depends on how willing the Yankees are to punt on this season. You might be willing to, but they may not. Think of it this way, even if they get to play just 2 home games in the playoffs, thats all gravy revenue. If Wang is out for 2 months, I would be shocked if the Yankees could contend for the WC.

[jza1218]

I wasn't really saying that Kennedy will get a Sabathia trade done.

I'm just saying that scouts still see value in the guy.

I don't think anybody ever saw him as being more than a #3 at best.

Honestly, the only scouts that love the guy that I see are Yankee scouts and the #1 mistake most people make is that they overvalue their own farm system

[MoneyMelon]

It depends on how willing the Yankees are to punt on this season. You might be willing to, but they may not. Think of it this way, even if they get to play just 2 home games in the playoffs, thats all gravy revenue. If Wang is out for 2 months, I would be shocked if the Yankees could contend for the WC.

Yeah, it's a lot of revenue, but they're already raking in a fortune with the All-Star game, the last season of the current stadium and the brand new stadium opening next season.

If there's a time where the team could step back and still be a financial juggernaut, this is it.

[statnut]

Yeah, it's a lot of revenue, but they're already raking in a fortune with the All-Star game, the last season of the current stadium and the brand new stadium opening next season.

If there's a time where the team could step back and still be a financial juggernaut, this is it.

Unfortunately, with the Yankees, not making the playoffs is seen as a failure. Could they, and the fans, deal with that? My money is on no.

[MoneyMelon]

Honestly, the only scouts that love the guy that I see are Yankee scouts and the #1 mistake most people make is that they overvalue their own farm system

That's not what I've heard at all.

A lot of teams like him and see him having long term potential to be a solid middle of the rotation guy.

I've even heard things that people in the Red Sox organization like Kennedy.

Granted, the Yanks do hype their prospects. They were building him up like he's an up and coming ace. Obviously that's not the case.

[statnut]

That's not what I've heard at all.

A lot of teams like him and see him having long term potential to be a solid middle of the rotation guy.

Thats the best case scenario with him though. The more likely scenario is back of the rotation #4/5 guy.

[statnut]

Granted, the Yanks do hype their prospects.

*Cough* Austin Jackson *Cough*

[MoneyMelon]

Unfortunately, with the Yankees, not making the playoffs is seen as a failure. Could they, and the fans, deal with that? My money is on no.

It'd be foolish to give in to that kind of mentality, IMO.

At some point, the Yankees will not make the playoffs. It's just a simple fact. Might as well do it now when you know fans will be buying tickets no matter what.

I mean, if they miss the playoffs this year, you really think they'll be playing in front of empty seats next year in the new stadium? I don't think so.

[jza1218]

That's not what I've heard at all.

A lot of teams like him and see him having long term potential to be a solid middle of the rotation guy.

I've even heard things that people in the Red Sox organization like Kennedy.

Granted, the Yanks do hype their prospects. They were building him up like he's an up and coming ace. Obviously that's not the case.

So like I said. He's not that desirable. Middle of the rotation guy is nothing.

[MoneyMelon]

So like I said. He's not that desirable. Middle of the rotation guy is nothing.

I'd disagree. Middle of the rotation means a solid pitcher.

A #5 is nothing.

[jza1218]

I'd disagree. Middle of the rotation means a solid pitcher.

A #5 is nothing.

But after this season, his value is at an all-time low. This is a guy who was praised for confidence and control. Something he failed to show in his big league call-up. He doesn't have any overwhelming pitches and as a result he is looked at as more of a #4 or 5 guy.

And a middle of the rotation guy is nothing. It's one of the easiest things to find out there. It's the Derek Lowes, the Bronson Arroyos, the Kenny Rogers of the world.

[C20Percent]

But after this season, his value is at an all-time low. This is a guy who was praised for confidence and control. Something he failed to show in his big league call-up. He doesn't have any overwhelming pitches and as a result he is looked at as more of a #4 or 5 guy.

You think his performance this year is an accurate representation of what his performance could be 4 or 5 years from now? Do you think he has any chance whatsoever of improving down the road?