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[jza1218]

This season Jeff Francouer is 2 for 19 with the bases loaded with his current streak at 0 for 15. They have to move him down in the batting order.

I think he'd benefit from hitting eighth. He'd get IBB a lot IMO

Id put the batting order at:

Gregor Blanco - CF
Yunel Escobar - SS
Chipper Jones - 3B
Mark Teixaira - 1B
Brian McCann - C
Kelly Johnson - 2B
Brandon Jones - LF
Jeff Francouer - RF

[D]

I think he'd benefit from hitting eighth. He'd get IBB a lot IMO

Id put the batting order at:

Gregor Blanco - CF
Yunel Escobar - SS
Chipper Jones - 3B
Mark Teixaira - 1B
Brian McCann - C
Kelly Johnson - 2B
Brandon Jones - LF
Jeff Francouer - RF

I like that, a lot. I don't know when they'll get to use that order, Chipper will be out for at least a week or two and Escobar may have been injured last night, but it still looks good.

[jza1218]

I like that, a lot. I don't know when they'll get to use that order, Chipper will be out for at least a week or two and Escobar may have been injured last night, but it still looks good.

I think Brandon Jones would also get a lot of hittable pitches with Francouer behind him. As a result, it could possibly drive up his trade value even more to further improve the team

[D]

I resent that.

I never compared the two, Glavine is a definite HOFer. But I will compare Mussina to Schilling.

Sorry dude, but of all the long time MLB thread posters you're my pick for biggest homer.

[jza1218]

Just further showing what a class act John Smoltz is:

ARLINGTON -- After converting his first save in more than a year on Wednesday night, Mike Gonzalez proudly shared his special moment with his parents, sisters and some friends from yesteryear. Another congratulatory message -- one he'll savor forever -- came in the form of a text message from John Smoltz.

"He just wanted to let me know that he was happy for me and to congratulate me," Gonzalez said. "He also wanted to remind me to keep understanding my body and not to overdo anything

Gonzalez's appearance on Wednesday was his first since undergoing Tommy John elbow ligament replacement surgery on May 31, 2007. Smoltz underwent the same surgical procedure in 2000 and then returned to assume the same closer role Gonzalez seemingly will continue to handle for the Braves

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... p&c_id=mlb

[rdrsfn82]

Just further showing what a class act John Smoltz is:

ARLINGTON -- After converting his first save in more than a year on Wednesday night, Mike Gonzalez proudly shared his special moment with his parents, sisters and some friends from yesteryear. Another congratulatory message -- one he'll savor forever -- came in the form of a text message from John Smoltz.

"He just wanted to let me know that he was happy for me and to congratulate me," Gonzalez said. "He also wanted to remind me to keep understanding my body and not to overdo anything

Gonzalez's appearance on Wednesday was his first since undergoing Tommy John elbow ligament replacement surgery on May 31, 2007. Smoltz underwent the same surgical procedure in 2000 and then returned to assume the same closer role Gonzalez seemingly will continue to handle for the Braves

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... p&c_id=mlb

Gotta love Smoltz. That's nice of him.

[billyzoom666]

I see that Buster Olney has listed both the Cubs and Brewers as potential suitors in the C.C sweepstakes that's due to start any day. Do the Cubs have enough in the minors to get something done? They couldn't pull off a deal for Brian Roberts, so I think they may have trouble meeting the ante for Sabathia. One thing in their favor is that they could potentially offer him an extension right away. If there is some sort of no trade protection in his contract, he could waive it for this reason. Olney also said that some teams could be bluffing. The Brewers could be one of those teams, bluffing to see if they can force the Cubs to really open up the cupboards. I think the Brewers do have the pieces to get something done though, so maybe it's more than a bluff. It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.

[Chris]

I see that Buster Olney has listed both the Cubs and Brewers as potential suitors in the C.C sweepstakes that's due to start any day. Do the Cubs have enough in the minors to get something done? They couldn't pull off a deal for Brian Roberts, so I think they may have trouble meeting the ante for Sabathia. One thing in their favor is that they could potentially offer him an extension right away. If there is some sort of no trade protection in his contract, he could waive it for this reason. Olney also said that some teams could be bluffing. The Brewers could be one of those teams, bluffing to see if they can force the Cubs to really open up the cupboards. I think the Brewers do have the pieces to get something done though, so maybe it's more than a bluff. It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Do the Brewers have any more Ryan Braun's in the minors?

[rdrsfn82]

Do the Brewers have any more Ryan Braun's in the minors?

They do. The Brewers minor league teams are actually just an advanced cloning research group making dozens of Ryan Brauns to use in future trades.

[Chris]

They do. The Brewers minor league teams are actually just an advanced cloning research group making dozens of Ryan Brauns to use in future trades.

That would be awesome.

We'll take two.

[billyzoom666]

Do the Brewers have any more Ryan Braun's in the minors?

Yeah, they have a kid called Mat Gamel who I think could probably be moved as a centerpiece in this deal. Here's his AA numbers this year. Like Braun, he has fielding issues, although this year looks a lot better than last year in that regard. He could be moved to a corner spot. I don't think he's as much of a pure hitter as Braun is, but he could be a good one.

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... pid=451143

Here's some career numbers.

http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewPlayerProf ... ayerId=828

[ReturnoftheMack]

Sorry dude, but of all the long time MLB thread posters you're my pick for biggest homer.

I trash the Yankees all the time. How many anti-Girardi posts have I made this season?

Couldn't you use Zechs?

[ReturnoftheMack]

Buster Onley (sp?) and Steve Phillips talked about Schilling's chances tonight on ESPN. Buster said that he is DEFINITE HOF worthy and didn't even want to hear Steve talk. (Like most of us.) He talked about his strikeout to hit ratio, his number of strikeouts, and his two famous WS titles with the D-Backs and Sox.

Phillips argued that based off his stats, he is not the kind of guy who gets into the Hall, bringing up the fact that a guy like Bert Blevyns had a hell of a lot more strike outs in his run. He also said without those benchmarks like 300 wins and others, he'll never get in.

I don't know who to side with. I think Schilling and I think dominant pitcher with two WS rings. I'm on the fence right now.

I think Schilling gets in because of the bloody sock and WS performances.

[Chris]

Yeah, they have a kid called Mat Gamel who I think could probably be moved as a centerpiece in this deal. Here's his AA numbers this year. Like Braun, he has fielding issues, although this year looks a lot better than last year in that regard. He could be moved to a corner spot. I don't think he's as much of a pure hitter as Braun is, but he could be a good one.

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... pid=451143

Here's some career numbers.

http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewPlayerProf ... ayerId=828

I think, in order to get something done for C.C... Shapiro really is looking for someone on a Braun-esque level in terms of prospects. He's been pretty good in the past of evaluating talent, or potential (Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips).. then again, he also traded Brandon Phillips for nothing, but I think that was more Eric Wedge than Shapiro.

If he can't get someone back in the deal that he thinks has a genuine future as a star, I don't think he'll do the deal.

[rdrsfn82]

I think, in order to get something done for C.C... Shapiro really is looking for someone on a Braun-esque level in terms of prospects. He's been pretty good in the past of evaluating talent, or potential (Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips).. then again, he also traded Brandon Phillips for nothing, but I think that was more Eric Wedge than Shapiro.

If he can't get someone back in the deal that he thinks has a genuine future as a star, I don't think he'll do the deal.

If I were Shapiro I'd wait until the last minute to make a deal, unless there was something amazing offered. Then if the Indians are out of it I make the best deal, even if it's not great. If they are withing striking distance I'd hold on to him for the playoffs, unless there was an amazing deal on the table that could help this year and beyond. I'd just hate to lose him for nothing.