Strict31 wrote:In superhero comics, it's almost a given that the heroes have the ability to not only fight the bad guys, but also save innocent bystanders being placed in danger by their super-fights. I dunno if it classifies as a trope (maybe Herald can be consulted), but I think it's kinda clear from the movie that Superman had his hands rather full with all the Kryptonians trying to kill him all at once.
I'm so glad you asked.
The trope in question is called "Railroading
". Snyderman was Railroaded into killing by a cynical writer (David S. Goyer) and director (the guy who puts the "Snyder" in "Snyderman"), which is why the utterly compromised character they upchucked isn't Superman.
More Darker and Edgier
garbage from people who do Believe a Man Can Fly, yet somehow can't Believe a Man Won't Kill. Call me when they find some people willing to do the job of portraying Superman RIGHT.
Every time he turns around, somebody starts whuppin' on him from another direction in that Smallville fight.
Shit, man...did Waid complain this much when Superman threw that colossal beating on Darkseid in the final ep of JLU? How many buildings did Darkseid get punched through?
For a guy as powerful as Superman, the choices he faces are almost always easy ones.
Not at all. It's harder to decide NOT to kill in such a dangerous situation as the one you mentioned. Snyderman took the EASY way out of his predicament, which is why he's a poor role model, and again, NOT Superman. And there's every reason to suspect that he'll continue to use this tactic in the future; after all, he did it this time, and it worked without a hitch! So, he has every reason to do it every time he gets in a situation he can't handle... and considering he's still a rookie, that's probably going to be a LOT of times. As I said earlier in this thread, the second Luthor pulls his "I didn't do it! Nobody saw me do it! You can't prove ANYthing!!" schtick, and Snyderman realizes that Lex is right, there's no concrete proof of his wrongdoing, and this guy's going to get off scot-free -- CRACK!!
That's the problem with going over that cliff the first time; It Gets Easier
to justify it the next time, and the next time, and the next time...
Easy choices are boring.
Which is why Snyderman killing is boring.
You can find a TON of other characters with no problem killing, from Dirty Harry and James Bond, on down to two of Marvel's favorite sons, Wolverine and the Punisher. Some characters can and should take the harder path of NOT mowing down their adversaries like grass, like Superman.
Characters need to be challenged.
It's a challenge to stay on the "straight and narrow path" of not killing than to simply slaughter whatever gets in your way. When you're as powerful as Superman, you have to be more skillful and considerate to hit someone so that they're KOed without causing permanent damage or death. It's more difficult to restrain yourself -- ESPECIALLY if you're Superman -- than to completely cut loose and not give a (expletive of choice) about the well-being of your foes AND all innocent bystanders. You yourself mentioned JLU Superman; well, I'm pretty sure he mentioned this in a memorable Speech of some sort!!
THAT is the difference between the REAL Superman and the cheap pretender that is Snyderman.
You also said, "In superhero comics, it's almost a given that the heroes have the ability to not only fight the bad guys, but also save innocent bystanders being placed in danger by their super-fights." Well, it's also a given that the heroes have the ability to fight the bad guys without massacring them, while still saving those innocent bystanders. And nobody exemplifies this particular given better than Superman. Again, it's how you tell the Real Steel Deal from Goyer and Snyder's craptastic fake; the latter FAILED this test!
If a character does everything perfectly, he becomes a dull character.
Superman -- or any other character -- can be imperfect without killing, as he's demonstrated numerous times before. (Interesting that one apparently has to resort to having a character murder people
just to prove how "imperfect" said character is...
) And hey... it IS that Snyderman's creators over the time they created this ill-considered movie have forgotten THAT.