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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:08 am

IvCNuB4 wrote:"SHIELD proto-typed the first wrist-communicator in 1936". Seriously, did they just take credit for Dick Tracy's 2-way Wrist communicator that debuted 10 years later in 1946 ? :lol:

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I thought that too - but the Walkie-Talkie wasn't even invented until 1937 so...
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:19 am

fieldy snuts wrote:Do people really think the fanservice appearance of Fury really salvaged this ep? :lol:

For me it wasn't fan-service. It was one of the few scenes without any 'beautiful' people in it that made it for me.

Coulson really is the only decent character - the rest, as nearly all the above posts confirm, are cliches wrapped in Cosmo/GQ clothing. The less screen time, the better.

Skye for instance - no one who lives in a van and pisses in a bucket should look that hot all the time. The guy who plays Ward must have been hired because of his looks (because his acting sure isn't going to win any awards).
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eltopo

Twenty-Something

Postby eltopo » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:26 am

I didn't watch it how did my my girl skye look ?
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HNutz

Rain Partier

Postby HNutz » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:35 am

Zechs wrote:It needs a villain, a physical villain, not Rising Tide as an organization. Someone not tied to the movies, but also is big enough for comic fans to go :smt118

This show so needs a Madame Hydra, Zemo, and Strucker or an A.I.M. Scientist Supreme. I'd settle for Yelena Belova since she's small but enough to be a recurring threat. What's good a show if there's no recurring threat?


Maybe the Peruvian lady will wind up becoming Madame Masque or something...?
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:58 am

The quote I posted from Loeb about writing it for your grandmas informs why the show is awful. Making a tv show "accessible", which is a dumb thing to say anyway, isn't the same as making it stupid and cliche'd. And it's not the strategy that packs the viewers and pirates both in for shows like Game Of Thrones or Breaking Bad. What they're doing with SHIELD is the exact opposite, and it'll have the opposite effect before long as well. 75% of new network shows are cancelled in a season these days, and if ABC/Disney keep this one on life support it will only be as a virtual subsidy in service to the movie franchise.
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habitual

Silly French Man

Postby habitual » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:12 am

Are Doom/Latveria and Magneto off the table as far as IP that can be included in the show?

Hab
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GHERU

Rain Partier

Postby GHERU » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:22 am

better than ep 1, but not by much
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avengingtitan

Rain Partier

Postby avengingtitan » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:28 am

I really like this show. Is it ground breaking? No but I like cheesy and action adventure.
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Juan Cena

DANG!

Postby Juan Cena » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:01 am

fieldy snuts wrote:Do people really think the fanservice appearance of Fury really salvaged this ep? :lol:

The shows problem so far outside of the awkward dialog is the sheer amount of fanservice and borrowing from movie themes to the point it's using them as a crutch while failing to develop its own depth.

It needs something standalone to reestablish that SHIELD is an espionage agency trying to adapt to a post-Avengers world. Series needed an enemy's face or name from the pilot. Every whedon pilot at least did that to give us an antagonist, but this one totally missed the mark in that regard.


Uh, Rising Tide?
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achilles

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Postby achilles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:23 am

Meh, I'll give it another episode or two, but unless they up the feel of being in the Marvel universe a bit more, better the writing, and make those magazine cover actors do a better job, I'm gone then. Just mentioning that there are gods and superheroes once or twice an episode doesn't do it for me.
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:08 pm

I like how the super-secret SHIELD base shoots a rocket that could be easily spotted.

And I absolutely love when the bad guy is being sucked out of an airplane but they're clutching onto the hero's arm - and then the hero tells them to "HANG ON!".
First - why hang on to them if they just tried to kill you?
Second - is telling them to "HANG ON!" a suggestion they hadn't yet considered? :lol:

And last night's show did this twice! :lol: :lol:
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Zechs

Outhouse Editor

Postby Zechs » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:16 pm

Juan Cena wrote:
Uh, Rising Tide?


It needs a face to that threat. What good is an organization without a face to it that antagonizes the heroes?
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:42 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
It's funny, Amy compliments this show's dialog compared to a lot of the other new shows we've tried recently (like Under the Dome) and finds it believable. I liked this episode, more than the first episode. I think that maybe it shoudn't be approached as something expected to be aimed at comic book fans. Like the Marvel movies, it's aimed at the mainstream.


All I'm hearing is that you and Amy have the same taste in TV as Nacireman..
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:43 pm

Zechs wrote:
It needs a face to that threat. What good is an organization without a face to it that antagonizes the heroes?


Some modeling agency in clean pressed fatigues maybe.
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Eric Ratcliffe

Staff Writer

Postby Eric Ratcliffe » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:35 pm

habitual wrote:Are Doom/Latveria and Magneto off the table as far as IP that can be included in the show?

Hab

Yeah because Fox is full of morons who don't understand how much stronger their branding/marketing would be by sharing a cohesive universe.

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