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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:51 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
How often do shows have that right from the beginning though? A lot of shows, including Whedon's best show, Buffy, do the villain of the week thing for like the whole first season. Person of Interest did this too. Over time, they build big villains.


Buffy had the Master. Angel had Wolfram and Hart. Person of Interest started off with Carter as not really a villain but as a threat to the team. Everything was in place from the beginning.

And from a show set in a superhero universe you expect to see that SHIELD has their work cut out for them by giving them real threats. The worlds biggest spy organisation needs an opponent that can punch Ward in his smug face.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:53 pm

Strict31 wrote:
The guy whp fell into the Sarlacc Pit, eh? Well...


But no one remembers that, they remember a guy with a cool design, tons of weapons, pouches before pouches were big and a jetpack with a rocket on his back. That visual alone sparked the fanwank that's made him a favorite despite being jobbed out in every movie fight.
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:54 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Buffy had the Master. Angel had Wolfram and Hart. Person of Interest started off with Carter as not really a villain but as a threat to the team. Everything was in place from the beginning.

And from a show set in a superhero universe you expect to see that SHIELD has their work cut out for them by giving them real threats. The worlds biggest spy organisation needs an opponent that can punch Ward in his smug face.


But the master was in like what, 3 episodes of the first season? Maybe this new guy, what was his name, Quinn? Maybe he'll be the big bad.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:59 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
But the master was in like what, 3 episodes of the first season? Maybe this new guy, what was his name, Quinn? Maybe he'll be the big bad.


The Master was from episode 1 though, almost every season premiere of those series establishes new threats that are a step up from the bad guys of the week. Quinn.....did he really seem that menacing to you? He was a guy hiding behind international borders and got played like a chump by Graviton :P
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Draco x

Fagorstorm

Postby Draco x » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:01 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:I think the problem with this show is the lack of a truly credible threat of a recurring antagonist...needs a villain who isn't just another guy with generic goons and could be perceived as capable of kicking the teams asses....in other words the show needs its own Boba Fett.

Off the top of my head the Taskmaster seems doable in that regard. Seriously doubt we'll be seeing him in movies any time soon and cool enough to gain a cult following.


Which is why I wish they would bring back Hydra or have AIM, Ultimatum or the HAND show up. Heck Sin, Monica Rapucinni or Flag Smasher as the main villains would also be golden.
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outsider

Outhouse Drafter

Postby outsider » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:05 pm

I don't think the show is as bad as the online complaints make it out to seem. It's enjoyable enough, and even had an ugly agent driving the truck. (Missed an opportunity to cameo U.S. Archer, dangit.)
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:06 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:Off the top of my head the Taskmaster seems doable in that regard.

I thought about him during all the talk about 'muscle memory' (when I wasn't thinking about how obvious of a 'hint' it was).
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superfictious

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Postby superfictious » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:10 pm

How about the Cakemaster? Or the Red Chef?
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:11 pm

superfictious wrote:How about the Cakemaster? Or the Red Chef?


Bernie Toastmaster
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superfictious

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Postby superfictious » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:15 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Bernie Toastmaster


The Baker's Dozen
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Lord Simian

The Lord of the Monkeys

Postby Lord Simian » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:39 am

Draco x wrote:
Which is why I wish they would bring back Hydra or have AIM, Ultimatum or the HAND show up. Heck Sin, Monica Rapucinni or Flag Smasher as the main villains would also be golden.


And for all you know, they HAVE. You don't think it'd be a major point for the series, when the team finally tracks down the Rising Tide's headquarters, you have their leader step from the shadows to dramatic music, and just say "Hail Hydra..."
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:14 am

What would The Taskmaster do, pick up a bunch of skills none of the cast actually have? He's only interesting when he's fighting skilled opponents.
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Lord Simian

The Lord of the Monkeys

Postby Lord Simian » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:16 am

Victorian Squid wrote:What would The Taskmaster do, pick up a bunch of skills none of the cast actually have? He's only interesting when he's fighting skilled opponents.


So, a guy with a big fanwank following that actually doesn't DO anything to earn it? All flash and no substance?


So he really WOULD be SHIELD'S Boba Fett.
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:25 am

Lord Simian wrote:
So, a guy with a big fanwank following that actually doesn't DO anything to earn it? All flash and no substance?


So he really WOULD be SHIELD'S Boba Fett.


That's okay, I saw one TV reviewer trying to justify that SHIELD was ok enough by saying the writers were in fact aiming for The Wild Wild West.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:31 am

Victorian Squid wrote:What would The Taskmaster do, pick up a bunch of skills none of the cast actually have? He's only interesting when he's fighting skilled opponents.


he can punch out ward repeatedly over multiple episodes.

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