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Michael Moore's 9 Suggestions for GM

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outsider

Outhouse Drafter

Postby outsider » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:24 am

(source: Goodbye, GM by Michael Moore)
Michael Moore wrote:1. Just as President Roosevelt did after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the president must tell the nation that we are at war and we must immediately convert our auto factories to factories that build mass-transit vehicles and alternative-energy devices. Within months in Flint in 1942, GM halted all car production and immediately used the assembly lines to build planes, tanks, and machine guns. The conversion took no time at all. Everyone pitched in. The fascists were defeated.

We are now in a different kind of war—a war that we have conducted against the ecosystem and has been conducted by our very own corporate leaders. This current war has two fronts. One is headquartered in Detroit. The products built in the factories of GM, Ford, and Chrysler are some of the greatest weapons of mass destruction responsible for global warming and the melting of our polar icecaps. The things we call "cars" may have been fun to drive, but they are like a million daggers into the heart of Mother Nature. To continue to build them would only lead to the ruin of our species and much of the planet.

The other front in this war is being waged by the oil companies against you and me. They are committed to fleecing us whenever they can, and they have been reckless stewards of the finite amount of oil that is located under the surface of the earth. They know they are sucking it bone dry. And like the lumber tycoons of the early 20th century who didn't give a damn about future generations as they tore down every forest they could get their hands on, these oil barons are not telling the public what they know to be true—that there are only a few more decades of useable oil on this planet. And as the end days of oil approach us, get ready for some very desperate people willing to kill and be killed just to get their hands on a gallon can of gasoline.

President Obama, now that he has taken control of GM, needs to convert the factories to new and needed uses immediately.

2. Don't put another $30 billion into the coffers of GM to build cars. Instead, use that money to keep the current workforce—and most of those who have been laid off—employed so that they can build the new modes of 21st-century transportation. Let them start the conversion work now.

3. Announce that we will have bullet trains criss-crossing this country in the next five years. Japan is celebrating the 45th anniversary of its first bullet train this year. Now they have dozens of them. Average speed: 165 mph. Average time a train is late: under 30 seconds. They have had these high-speed trains for nearly five decades—and we don't even have one! The fact that the technology already exists for us to go from New York to L.A. in 17 hours by train, and that we haven't used it, is criminal. Let's hire the unemployed to build the new high-speed lines all over the country. Chicago to Detroit in less than two hours. Miami to D.C. in under seven hours. Denver to Dallas in five and a half. This can be done and done now.

4. Initiate a program to put light-rail mass-transit lines in all our large and medium-sized cities. Build those trains in the GM factories. And hire local people everywhere to install and run this system.

5. For people in rural areas not served by the train lines, have the GM plants produce energy-efficient clean buses.

6. For the time being, have some factories build hybrid or all-electric cars (and batteries). It will take a few years for people to get used to the new ways to transport ourselves, so if we're going to have automobiles, let's have kinder, gentler ones. We can be building these next month (do not believe anyone who tells you it will take years to retool the factories—that simply isn't true).

7. Transform some of the empty GM factories to facilities that build windmills, solar panels, and other means of alternate forms of energy. We need tens of millions of solar panels right now. And there is an eager and skilled workforce who can build them.

8. Provide tax incentives for those who travel by hybrid car or bus or train. Also, credits for those who convert their home to alternative energy.

9. To help pay for this, impose a $2 tax on every gallon of gasoline. This will get people to switch to more energy-saving cars or to use the new rail lines and rail cars the former autoworkers have built for them.
Yes, MM is a gasbag with an overinflated sense of self-importance, but he does have some decent ideas (although he can kiss my ass on #9)

I love idea #3. We traveled by train to Disneyworld last year and loved it. Screw the airlines--I wish travelling by train was possible to go anywhere.

nolanjwerner--I'm sure #7 is giving you a chubby. :wink: :)

Spidey-Man

Postby Spidey-Man » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:26 am

i threw up during #1 so i couldnt finish. Sorry

Man is too stupid to live.

Note: to nolan and nightfly, this is not a call for his death so if he dies i cannot be blamed

Spidey-Man

Postby Spidey-Man » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:27 am

Jesus christ, is this a socialist/fascist nightmare :lol: please let me wake up :-D
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outsider

Outhouse Drafter

Postby outsider » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:29 am

Rob wrote:i threw up during #1 so i couldnt finish. Sorry
Ha, I do wish he had made that point #9 instead of #1. He starts over the top and then has some decent suggestions afterwards.

Spidey-Man

Postby Spidey-Man » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:32 am

i like my car. fuck off michael moore.
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DMM

Rain Partier

Postby DMM » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:40 am

I like my car, too, but if they could make alternative energy Jeep Wranglers that are actually cool and useful, then I would buy one when I was ready/had the money. The new Jeep Wranglers SUCK. They took all the fun out of them and made them like Hummers or any of the other over-sized SUVs out there.
I would also love to be able to take a bus or train into work, as long as it wasn't too inconveniant or make my commute longer or more arduous.

Spidey-Man

Postby Spidey-Man » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:42 am

For the government to take control of a company and force it to make the products they choose to make, and not what the market demands or the company or shareholders want to make, is against everything our entire system is about

It's a breakdown of essential liberty. and it only ends in tears.
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avengingtitan

Rain Partier

Postby avengingtitan » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:45 am

MM I got a 9 solution for ya.


Image

M9 standard issue AF pistol is my old friend. I'd be happy to show it to ya.
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AaronW

Rain Partier

Postby AaronW » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:46 am

I love the idea by crazy environment wackos that we just tax gas to make it higher and shit to encourage people to buy new cars. Yeah everyone can afford to pick up a new car or pay crazy amounts for gas to get to work. In a lot of areas using public transportation isn't really much of an option. If I did it I would just end up walking more than ride any buses or trains.

Do these people lose all touch with reality when they get rich? "well move closer to your work", "well buy a new car". :roll: Yeah everyone has tons of excess cash lying around to do those things. The change in American society away from gas cars is not going to happen overnight.
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DMM

Rain Partier

Postby DMM » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:46 am

Rob wrote:For the government to take control of a company and force it to make the products they choose to make, and not what the market demands or the company or shareholders want to make, is against everything our entire system is about

It's a breakdown of essential liberty. and it only ends in tears.

well, the market isn't demanding the shit tons of cars they're putting out, otherwise they wouldn't be going out of business, laying everybody off, and accepting government bailouts.
The economy is bad, though. But maybe it's a good time to change things/fix things. They were obviously broke.
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outsider

Outhouse Drafter

Postby outsider » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:48 am

avengingtitan wrote:MM I got a 9 solution for ya.
<snip>
M9 standard issue AF pistol is my old friend. I'd be happy to show it to ya.
Didn't you see Bowling for Columbine and learn about the evils of guns?
Charlton Heston killed all those children!!

Spidey-Man

Postby Spidey-Man » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:48 am

DMM wrote:well, the market isn't demanding the shit tons of cars they're putting out, .


Not necessarily. They've sold more cars than any company on the planet until last yr when they were #2

they have a lot of problems though

and perhaps they shoudl fade away

or change

but that shouldnt be at force by the government. its wrong

we used to know this.
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avengingtitan

Rain Partier

Postby avengingtitan » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:49 am

Aaron_W wrote:I love the idea by crazy environment wackos that we just tax gas to make it higher and shit to encourage people to buy new cars. Yeah everyone can afford to pick up a new car or pay crazy amounts for gas to get to work. In a lot of areas using public transportation isn't really much of an option. If I did it I would just end up walking more than ride any buses or trains.

Do these people lose all touch with reality when they get rich? "well move closer to your work", "well buy a new car". :roll: Yeah everyone has tons of excess cash lying around to do those things. The change in American society away from gas cars is not going to happen overnight.


Hey if that happens I'll buy a new bike. I only live 2 miles from work. I only drive because its easier.
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DMM

Rain Partier

Postby DMM » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:49 am

Aaron_W wrote:I love the idea by crazy environment wackos that we just tax gas to make it higher and shit to encourage people to buy new cars. Yeah everyone can afford to pick up a new car or pay crazy amounts for gas to get to work. In a lot of areas using public transportation isn't really much of an option. If I did it I would just end up walking more than ride any buses or trains.

Do these people lose all touch with reality when they get rich? "well move closer to your work", "well buy a new car". :roll: Yeah everyone has tons of excess cash lying around to do those things. The change in American society away from gas cars is not going to happen overnight.

Good post.
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Timbales

Fisty McDigger

Postby Timbales » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:50 am

Fuck him. I'm supposed to quadruple (at least) my 15 minute commute?

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