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by **CountD** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:41 pm

Spidey-Man wrote:I don’t really have a problem with his foreign policy. He’s pretty much continued his predecessor’s foreign policy almost exactly.

Domestically, he’s just been subpar. His promises are the most out there things I’ve ever heard. He seems to believe in no limit to government power. He’s got an inability to persuade the nation or his opponents. He inherited a tough situation. Im not sure he did much to make it better. We seem to have squandered a lot of money on wasted projects and things

His focus should have lasered in on the economy

Instead it was on side shows. His health care bill which appears to be dead on arrival with the supreme court per the mandate.

Gays in the military and other things while nice don’t do anything substantive for 99% of people.

I don’t understand why he lacks passion (other than healthcare) and gets so easily distracted.

He needd to make more Americans employed somehow.

by **Spidey-Man** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:42 pm

Chubbles wrote:Your problem Rob is you're hung up on 9/11 like it gives us a free pass to fuck people's shit up for however long as we want. Go watch a documentary or read about about the boots on the ground and the innocent people being murdered by ours and their own people if they are caught helping us.

Im sure you’ve watched all sorts of conspiracy theory documentaries.

And yes, it’s our fault if some poor guy gets murdered by thugs because he chose to help us.

Reminds me of when the mob murders a snitch and how we blame the police and stop mob investogations.

do you actually have any integrity, principles at all? or is it all "run away and hide because there are bad people in the world"

by **Spidey-Man** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:43 pm

CountD wrote:He needd to make more Americans employed somehow.

I dont even know whats he done domestically

Health care and stimulus was early

and then

nothing really.

a few small things.

and its not like he's been so consumed by foreign affairs. it's like he's been handed a domestic presidency and has checked out after the first two yrs.

by **MoneyMelon** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:44 pm

Spidey-Man wrote:
It doesn’t matter if they are different scenarios. His position is they never work. That's what you keep missing.

Battling the Taliban who while not controlling Kabul control a good portion of the country. And other terrorists though many of them, probably most, are long dead.

Im confused though because you’ve done the switcheroo I’ve noticed from many.

“GWB is terrible, he’s not focused on Afghanistan, we need to elect someone who will focus the war on Afghanistan”

Election 2008, War gets focused on Afghanistsan

“PULL OUT< THIS Afghan WAR IS TERRIBLE”

Lol

basically misrepresenting your positions for yrs simply to oppose Iraq It's precious.

I'm delighted how you're trying to make this personal for some reason. But you just look like a shit head, which is par for the course. That's why you're the butt of jokes.

We should have focused on Afghanistan instead of Iraq. Our own military admits we diverted resources to Iraq that could have been used to prevent the leadership and much of the forces of the Taliban from escaping into Pakistan. The Bush Administration instead chose to reply on the locals who were incapable, unwilling and too corrupt to actually do any good. So now we control the major cities and send soldiers out into the sticks to get picked off by farmers with rifles who are bought/threatened into fighting us. We're not really accomplishing much that's making American any safer.

I thought the surge should have been attempted in Afghanistan, but it's becoming pretty clear that it hasn't made the impact we wanted it to. How long to you stick around in that situation? At some point, I think you have to pack up and leave.

by **CountD** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:44 pm

Spidey-Man wrote:Im sure you’ve watched all sorts of conspiracy theory documentaries.

And yes, it’s our fault if some poor guy gets murdered by thugs because he chose to help us.

Reminds me of when the mob murders a snitch and how we blame the police and stop mob investogations.

do you actually have any integrity, principles at all? or is it all "run away and hide because there are bad people in the world"

I'll vouch for Chubbles. He is a good guy.

He seems to be in favor of diplomacy instead of carpet bombing, is all. Maybe he is a pacifist- and there's nothing wrong with that.

by **Chubbles** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:45 pm

you're insane dude check out restrepo and the battle for marjah to see some examples...try reading a few books written by troops who actually fought in afghanistan and you'll see where i'm coming from

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:47 pm

Chubbles wrote:you're insane dude check out restrepo and the battle for marjah to see some examples...try reading a few books written by troops who actually fought in afghanistan and you'll see where i'm coming from

Like Matt Ryan Conklin?

by **Herald** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:47 pm

avengingtitan wrote:He may not be the best president but he's better then anything the GOP has left to offer and 100x better then bush the lesser.

Like I said, it's not as if the Republicans are fielding a better alternative.
GOSD realizes this, too, or he wouldn't be handing Obama the win already.

by **Spidey-Man** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:47 pm

And then his supporters will say

“yeah but the republicans wont let him do anything.”

“Well Reagan and Clinton had the other side in both houses and they did things”

“That was different then. The democrats loved Regaan and the Republicans loved Clinton. Now, nobody will compromises, unlike that great compromiser Newt Gingrich so im voting Obama because its not his fault nothing gets done.”

“ok so what do you think the congress will look like next time”

“Well the republicans wuill probably be able to filibuster in the senate and have the majority in the house”

So you’re voting for the guy who can’t work with these people even though they will be able to block everything he does (according to you) the same way for the next 4 yrs lol

Better to support a hillary challenge

by **Starlord** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:47 pm

Holland Oats wrote:
It's not a discussion. It's fear-mongering. What the OH does best when it comes to politics.

Stop saying that, you're scaring me!

by **Chubbles** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:47 pm

CountD wrote:
I'll vouch for Chubbles. He is a good guy.

He seems to be in favor of diplomacy instead of carpet bombing, is all. Maybe he is a pacifist- and there's nothing wrong with that.

thanks you're swell too :wink:

by **CountD** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:47 pm

republicans are sunk, done, flushed, this election

by **Chubbles** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:48 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
Like Matt Ryan Conklin?

Nah I would never want to side with nacireman even if it meant beating Rob :-D

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:49 pm

Chubbles is alright for a Mexican. It's better than nothing

by **Spidey-Man** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:49 pm

CountD wrote:
I'll vouch for Chubbles. He is a good guy.

He seems to be in favor of diplomacy instead of carpet bombing, is all. Maybe he is a pacifist- and there's nothing wrong with that.

He's not a good guy as demonstrated in the prior thread. It surprised me. but he's a blame the rape victim guy. I dont like guys like that.