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Re: Official Sons of Anarchy Season 6 Thread Potential Spoil

Postby T-Roy Space Cowboy » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:21 pm

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It's not just Breaking Bad that has made SOA seem mediocre, it's Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Veep, Boardwalk Empire had its premier on sunday and it was amazing. Kurt Sutter is not really into subtlety which is what all those shows not called GoT has and is why they are so wonderful.


I haven't watched Breaking Bad yet, I have been meaning to and eventually will but haven't yet. Mad Men didn't appeal to me at all, same with Board Walk Empire. I think Veep is hilarious though, love that show. GoT as well is one of my favorites for sure. Sons, Justified, and GoT are my top 3 shows right now.
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Re: Official Sons of Anarchy Season 6 Thread Potential Spoil

Postby Chris » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:33 pm

Jax has never really been rootable. He's only the "good guy" in relation to clay and because he is the protagonist.
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Postby T-Roy Space Cowboy » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:41 pm

Chris wrote:Jax has never really been rootable. He's only the "good guy" in relation to clay and because he is the protagonist.


True, as I see it Opie was the most decent one in a group of totally indecent people.

I re-watched the first season recently and it seems that Jax was truly trying to be more of a good guy at points. Then everything just starts to fall apart around him and instead of trying to continue to rise above it all he just let himself slip further and further down with it all. A lot of the shit he has done over the past couple seasons is just as evil and dirty as anything Clay or Gemma has done, it just doesn't seem as bad because most times he is doing to people worse than himself.
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Re: Official Sons of Anarchy Season 6 Thread Potential Spoil

Postby Grayson » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:27 pm

Chris wrote:Jax has never really been rootable. He's only the "good guy" in relation to clay and because he is the protagonist.


I'm was never really rooting for Jax because he is the "good guy" but because there was always a glimmer of hope that he may get out eventually, almost like Walter White in the earlier seasons of Breaking Bad. The longer that this show goes on, the clearer that it becomes that Jax doesn't want to get out. If anything, I am rooting for Tara.
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Postby Chris » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:11 pm

I don't think it's that Jax doesn't want to get out. I think it just became clear that there was no way to really extricate himself from the situation cleanly.

He wanted out, but he also didn't want his club to burn down around him. He wanted to have his cake and eat it too. And once he became Pres. I think last season showed that he needed to turn into Clay in order to get shit done.

BUT... I don't know if he's not just pulling a huge long con, ultimately.



I think, at the end of the day, I would have preferred this show to play out like I was hoping it would when it first started... where we would find out at the end of season 1 or whatever that Jax was a fed, undercover in his own club after he found out that Clay killed his dad... if we can't get a Scalped TV show, it would've been the next best thing.

I wish it would've played out like that.

As is, I think Sutter lost track of his own gameplan at points. Or, he's just not the best at pacing out his story. But he always manages to bring it around by season's end into a fucking exciting finish. So fingers crossed.
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Re: Official Sons of Anarchy Season 6 Thread Potential Spoil

Postby Grayson » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:38 pm

Chris wrote:I think, at the end of the day, I would have preferred this show to play out like I was hoping it would when it first started... where we would find out at the end of season 1 or whatever that Jax was a fed, undercover in his own club after he found out that Clay killed his dad... if we can't get a Scalped TV show, it would've been the next best thing.

I wish it would've played out like that.


That would have made for a very interesting show, especially if as you said earlier, he was playing the long con about it. I'd watch it. 8)

Up until this season premiere, I strongly felt like Tara and the boys were just barely Jax's top priority. He loves his club and he wants to do right by them but his family still came first. Now, it's apparent that I was simply wrong about Jax's priorities and that his family was never above the club.

I will say that I did applaud Tig when he drowned that sleazy "director" in the tub of piss. Unfortunately, I am worried about the repercussions for Tig. I would hate for the man to jump out of one frying pan, miss the fire, only to land in a completely different fire.

The whole school shooting thing was massively predictable after the second or third time that we saw that creepy kid. You didn't necessarily know exactly what he was going to do but you did know that he was going to do something. Speaking of massively predictable, Clay deciding to make a deal with Toric was pretty predictable as well. If they wouldn't have stretched the arc with the deal that Juice made out for so long, then Clay making a deal might have been a little more shocking.
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Postby LobsterJ » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:46 pm

Grayson wrote: I can't really say that I am rooting for Jax anymore. .


I stopped rooting for Jax in any form when he beat up that porn star. It was pretty sickening.

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Re: Official Sons of Anarchy Season 6 Thread Potential Spoil

Postby fieldy snuts » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:01 pm

sons lost what it was that originally sold me on...much like breaking bad its strength was keeping us in suspense and holding all that tension for a worthy payoff eventually.

instead it's slowly just given us these 'shocking' moments as much as possible while the original pacing, suspense and tension has been filled with utterly stupid character moments to convey those formerly great scenes for the sake of getting through a 13 ep season as full of as much shock as possible.

i'll still watch it, but it's nowhere near a top 5 show for me anymore.

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Postby T-Roy Space Cowboy » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:40 pm

As said I started watching the show over again from the beginning just recently and in the early seasons it really did seem like Jax wanted to make a change in everything that the club was about, to try and actually go as legit as they could. After everything that went down with the ATF and his kid getting kidnapped and all that I think he completely lost his way. Part of him wanted to get out completely, I really think if he could have he would have taken Tara and the boys and just hauled ass but then he got caught between Clay, the Irish, the Cartel, and that whole mess and he realized that he was never gonna get out and if he didn't stay the club would die. So then he basically like Chris said had to become Clay. Up to that point Jax had only really done bad shit to people that really deserved it, now he was willing to do whatever to whoever no matter the ends and that really fucked up his character. I am hoping now with the school shooting that he kind find his way and try to get back to what he hoped to accomplish from the beginning but I think he may be to far gone at this point.

As for who I root for now on this show, I root for Nero to get the fuck away from Gemma because he seems like a genuinely good guy, I mean for an ex-banger and a pimp, and no one comes out for the better when they get involved with Gemma. I used to always root for Opie, but since he died there doesn't seem to really be anyone to really get behind anymore because they are all pretty self serving shits right now.

And hell yeah it's predictable that Clay took that deal so damn quick, hell I'm more surprised it took him that long to make it. Clay is a weasel and manipulative shit, of course he was going to do whatever he needed to do and shit on anyone else to save his on ass.
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Postby T-Roy Space Cowboy » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:26 am

Last nights episode definitely let off the throttle a bit compared to the season premiere. This was more in line with the character driven episodes that made me absolutely love SOA. I am loving the Lee Toric character, he is one of the more interesting foils that SAMCRO has faced over the years. I am surprised that Tara seems to be turning against everyone, even though she still wants to protect Jax I think it's all going to blow up in her face. I just feel so bad for Nero, dude is going to get so fucked over by having anything to do with Gemma and SAMCRO. And we had to say goodbye to Dave Navarro, poor dude took it right to the back of his head piece.
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Postby Zechs » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:36 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: This episode felt like a freaking season finale. :shock: :shock:

Bye bye Otto. At least you went out on top. Damn I thought Donal would be the big bad, and just like that he's out. Also dear all that is ghastly the freaking Irish man. They're just nasty.

So the Irish are again the focus this season? Or is the looming shadow of Amanda Waller the big threat?
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Postby T-Roy Space Cowboy » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:45 am

Zechs wrote::shock: :shock: :shock: This episode felt like a freaking season finale. :shock: :shock:

Bye bye Otto. At least you went out on top. Damn I thought Donal would be the big bad, and just like that he's out. Also dear all that is ghastly the freaking Irish man. They're just nasty.

So the Irish are again the focus this season? Or is the looming shadow of Amanda Waller the big threat?


Yeah so much shit went down last night it was insane! I actually am finding myself getting behind Clay again! Whenever he handed the shiv to Otto I was like HELL YEAH! I didn't expect Otto to kill Toric, good call by guitarsmashley on him getting killed off so soon, I just thought he would kill himself. I see the DA chick becoming a huge problem for the club now which also means things could go really bad for Nero now which I have not wanted to see since he came own the show, even though I knew it was coming all along. The Irish have always been bad news for Jax and the shit really hit the fan this episode. Very sad to see Filthy Phil get gunned down, that sucked! Very surprised to see Tig still among the living, nice bait and switch by Sutter there. Still a lot of threads to play out this season and I am so ready to see where they go!
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Re: Official Sons of Anarchy Season 6 Thread Potential Spoil

Postby Zechs » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:43 am

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Yeah so much shit went down last night it was insane! I actually am finding myself getting behind Clay again! Whenever he handed the shiv to Otto I was like HELL YEAH! I didn't expect Otto to kill Toric, good call by guitarsmashley on him getting killed off so soon, I just thought he would kill himself. I see the DA chick becoming a huge problem for the club now which also means things could go really bad for Nero now which I have not wanted to see since he came own the show, even though I knew it was coming all along. The Irish have always been bad news for Jax and the shit really hit the fan this episode. Very sad to see Filthy Phil get gunned down, that sucked! Very surprised to see Tig still among the living, nice bait and switch by Sutter there. Still a lot of threads to play out this season and I am so ready to see where they go!


I knew Otto would be the end of Toric, but I didn't expect it so darn soon. I thought maybe another episode after the Sheriff putting the pieces together that Nero was framed by Toric and confront him about it forcing him to be even more desperate. What's gonna happen to that whole cache of guns Toric had then?
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Postby guitarsmashley » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:44 pm

So I just read a recap of last nights episode....remember in this thread where I said Toric would be gone by episode 4?
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RIP FILTHY PHIL

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