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Postby MoneyMelon » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:32 pm

DeadFett wrote:That may happen sooner than you think if this happens...

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They should put me in charge of foreign relations.

I'd get everybody to chill out.
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Postby L Independant » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:33 pm

DeadFett wrote:That may happen sooner than you think if this happens...

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Exxon's PROFITS in 2007: $39 billion...for a corporation, and shareholders.

Venezuela's GDP in 2007: $219.372 billion...for an entire country of 27.5 million people. Compare that to the US: 13.770 trillion for a population of about 302.711 million people (do the division of both and find per capita income).

Exxon needs to shut the fuck up and not sue poor people out of what little income they have.

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Postby DeadFett » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:43 pm

L'Indépendant wrote:Exxon's PROFITS in 2007: $39 billion...for a corporation, and shareholders.

Venezuela's GDP in 2007: $219.372 billion...for an entire country of 27.5 million people. Compare that to the US: 13.770 trillion for a population of about 302.711 million people (do the division of both and find per capita income).

Exxon needs to shut the fuck up and not sue poor people out of what little income they have.


Absolutely. Exxon sucks. Their greed is disgusting.
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Postby David Bird » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:51 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:I'm just waiting until we realize that Canada's got oil and they're a hell of a lot closer :wink:


I think you're a decade or two late. The US-Canada, and North America free trade acts gave you ready access to both our oil and gas and Mexico's.

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Postby MoneyMelon » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:53 pm

David Bird wrote:I think you're a decade or two late. The US-Canada, and North America free trade acts gave you ready access to both our oil and gas and Mexico's.

I didn't say I was interested in sharing :twisted:
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Postby David Bird » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:14 am

Obama has taken the lead! :D

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Postby L Independant » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:30 am

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Postby The Juan Percenter » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:14 pm

DeadFett wrote:Absolutely. Exxon sucks. Their greed is disgusting.


Actually, they paid over 40% in taxes this year and their profit margin stayed flat - 10%. The culprit here is us. They are only supply what we demand. Use less energy and Exxon's profits will fall

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Postby David Bird » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:38 pm

Could you source that info?

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Postby The Juan Percenter » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:51 pm

David Bird wrote:Could you source that info?


http://seekingalpha.com/article/63131-e ... tors_picks

It is simple math if you understand profit margin :

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/in ... Symbol=XOM

40.61 NI = 10.04 Profit Margin.
$404.55

Meaning Exxon only keep 10% of what it earns. Compare that with 3M or Microsoft
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Postby The Juan Percenter » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:52 pm



I wouldn't trust Huffy Post for economic analysis. This article is filled with a lack of basic accounting concepts.

Since when should we be "criticizing its record $40.6 billion profit in 2007" Is it bad to earn a profit now :roll:

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Postby David Bird » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:10 pm

Thanks.

The first link, the analysis, is the original source for this info and hardly more unbiased than Huffington. And paying 30 billion in taxes when you have more than 404 billion coming in hardly seems unreasonable.

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Postby The Juan Percenter » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:33 pm

David Bird wrote:Thanks.

The first link, the analysis, is the original source for this info and hardly more unbiased than Huffington. And paying 30 billion in taxes when you have more than 404 billion coming in hardly seems unreasonable.


Taxes are applied on EBT (Earnings Before Taxes). They are paying about 41% - $30 billion over 67 billion EBT. It's not biased, it is basic accounting. Taxes are calculated on what you keep, not what you make. Exxon only keeps 10% of what it makes. If you think that is too much, then maybe we should start going after MSFT (20% PM) as well.

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