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SDCC: It's Official: Superman/Batman Film Announced (Updated w/ Movie Logo)

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fieldy snuts

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Postby fieldy snuts » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:23 pm

dairydead wrote:
they dont care about pleasing you man, they made a misstep with Green Lantern, and that wasn't really something they could predict. They aren't artists, but they've created two huge franchises in Batman and Man of Steel. Creating a crossover for that, depending on HOW they do it, is a sure hit.


Wait what? One movie is now a franchise? :lol:
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:25 pm

alaska1125 wrote:100% agreed on that point. So I'm sure somebody loves Green Lantern and Catwoman. I won't dispute their passion for this quality films. I just see a hurried cash grab here. And a diminishing box office return. And, once again, I'll totally eat my words if it's an amazing script, quality acting, and a global phenomenon. As a comic fan for thirty plus years, I'm practically praying for it. But I'm cynical...


The thing is , nothing is hurried there are hundreds of people involved in these decisions. The very fact that shareholders are involved, should prove to you that nothing is just haphazard when it comes to multi million dollar franchises. Too much money to be made, too much money to be lost. And yes, mistakes can be made, but that could never possibly be indicative of an entire "unsure" attitude about one entity, as WB simply isn't just a small group of people.
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fieldy snuts

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Postby fieldy snuts » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:27 pm

dairydead wrote:
The thing is , nothing is hurried there are hundreds of people involved in these decisions. The very fact that shareholders are involved, should prove to you that nothing is just haphazard when it comes to multi million dollar franchises. Too much money to be made, too much money to be lost. And yes, mistakes can be made, but that could never possibly be indicative of an entire "unsure" attitude about one entity, as WB simply isn't just a small group of people.


Jonah Hex & Catwoman disagree.

I can list a ton of big budget movie flops from every major studio that say otherwise. Having faith in the corporate suits for a quality movie that is compelling over something that is just meant to give them big fat bonuses is setting yourself up for failure.
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:28 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Wait what? One movie is now a franchise? :lol:

Yeah. it was created as a multi movie franchise. :smt102
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alaska1125

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Postby alaska1125 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:30 pm

dairydead wrote:
The thing is , nothing is hurried there are hundreds of people involved in these decisions. The very fact that shareholders are involved, should prove to you that nothing is just haphazard when it comes to multi million dollar franchises. Too much money to be made, too much money to be lost. And yes, mistakes can be made, but that could never possibly be indicative of an entire "unsure" attitude about one entity, as WB simply isn't just a small group of people.

Eh. They're making rash decisions in an attempt to catch the tiger by the tail. It's more often than not a bad business move. We'll see, but your MoS "franchise" is sitting at number 73 in top box office totals.
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superfictious

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Postby superfictious » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:31 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Wait what? One movie is now a franchise? :lol:


Isn't Avengers considered a franchise?
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dairydead

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Postby dairydead » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:33 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Jonah Hex & Catwoman disagree.

I can list a ton of big budget movie flops from every major studio that say otherwise. Having faith in the corporate suits for a quality movie that is compelling over something that is just meant to give them big fat bonuses is setting yourself up for failure.


Like i said, mistakes will be and have been made. The problem is that whoever made decisions for these movies had a poor handle on what would work, creatively and marketing-wise. But do you really think these people that made those poor decisions on Jonah Hex and Catwoman are the people calling the shots on Batman and Superman? When you start blaming "WB" for mistakes, you're losing the whole idea that a corporation is not a single person making these decisions.
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Postby superfictious » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:33 pm

And imo, a movie slated for a 2015 release doesn't seem to be any more of a hurried cashgrab than any normal movie in pre-production.
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alaska1125

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Postby alaska1125 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:34 pm

superfictious wrote:
Isn't Avengers considered a franchise?

Yes. Because, you know, because of the five associated movies that preceded it.
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Zechs

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Postby Zechs » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:35 pm

Oh right this happened today. Meh. :P
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alaska1125

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Postby alaska1125 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:37 pm

superfictious wrote:And imo, a movie slated for a 2015 release doesn't seem to be any more of a hurried cashgrab than any normal movie in pre-production.

I'd agree if it was MoS 2. Superman/Batman? Yeah, hurried cash grab.
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Postby superfictious » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:38 pm

alaska1125 wrote:Yes. Because, you know, because of the five associated movies that preceded it.


Okay, just making sure all of our definitions of franchise are the same. With that in mind, I don't see much risk of failure for Superman/Batman, the next installment in the franchise of Superman and Batman films.
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alaska1125

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Postby alaska1125 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:40 pm

superfictious wrote:
Okay, just making sure all of our definitions of franchise are the same. With that in mind, I don't see much risk of failure for Superman/Batman, the next installment in the franchise of Superman and Batman films.

How about this? I hope you're right.
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superfictious

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Postby superfictious » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:41 pm

alaska1125 wrote:I'd agree if it was MoS 2. Superman/Batman? Yeah, hurried cash grab.


How does it make it any different? That's like thinking Captain America and Thor were hurried cashgrabs based on the success of Iron Man and hype of Avengers.
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superfictious

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Postby superfictious » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:41 pm

alaska1125 wrote:How about this? I hope you're right.


Fair enough.

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