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by **Stephen Day** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:49 pm

MistaT wrote:
Premium channels are a whole lot different from network or cable channels. The operate more like a movie studio than a television one. The exception in this case would be AMC, but they get it. They even say it in their slogan "Where Story Matters" and because of that mindset they have given us the best shows on the air with The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, and Mad Men.

Since we're dealing with pure hypotheticals here, there's nothing that says that a Young Avengers TV series couldn't be on a premium channel. :wink:

by **MistaT** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:51 pm

Stephen Day wrote:
Since we're dealing with pure hypotheticals here, there's nothing that says that a Young Avengers TV series couldn't be on a premium channel.

Nothing except common sense.

No seriously though, YA is not an HBO or Showtime program.

by **Stephen Day** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:56 pm

MistaT wrote:
Nothing except common sense.

No seriously though, YA is not an HBO or Showtime program.

Yeah, I know, it's just fun to speculate with hypotheticals. :wink:

by **sdsichero** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:22 am

I wonder if The Avengers movie changed how they'll handle the TV live action Hulk... or if they were planned in conjunction with one another?

by **Doc Jon** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:49 am

sdsichero wrote:I wonder if The Avengers movie changed how they'll handle the TV live action Hulk... or if they were planned in conjunction with one another?

I'm going to have to give Marvel credit and say they've been thinking ahead. Everything points to that.

by **young_avengers** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:56 pm

young avengers tv series ?? if it's live action tv series like smallville or birds of prey then definitely no but if it's cartoon tv series then yes. why not, i mean come on why shouldn't they have their own cartoon. DC have their own young heroes cartoon like Young Justice or Teen Titans so why not marvel have there own young heroes.

by **mrorangesoda** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:12 pm

Considering the public at large just met these characters- no.
Joe Q Public: "Who's this Wiccan guy? Oh, the kid of an Avenger we've never met. Great. Ooooo, a twist at the end of the season with Iron Lad? Kang the who? Is he the guy in the scene after the credits? Sweet! A robot! How is he tied into the Avengers? Oh, right Ultron made him- wait who's Ultron? Oh, right Hank Pym created him- wait who's... etc."
Young Avengers works because it's based on the history of a team people are familiar with. The movie avengers have next to no history. You could recast the team, but at that point you're moving to an Avengers Academy "train the next generation" type team when this current team are all still new superheroes.

by **Arion** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:50 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:Yes. Please. They really have bungled how they've handled that franchise. (Heinberg is no innocent party in that either...)

Heinberg created them. Don't forget that.

by **habitual** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:36 am

MistaT wrote:
Budget constraints is a big one, it would limit everything from special effects to wardrobe to talent (both in front of and behind the camera).

But I think the biggest factor would be lack of vision. Arguably the most important man involved in the Avengers franchise and its supporting films is Kevin Feige. The man a had vision and a plan to execute it. Without him we would not be having this conversation. TV while similar on the surface is a whole different animal underneath. Decisions are made by committee's and big wigs who are not in it for the story or the characters but the advertising and the profit margin. I understand that this also applies to movies as well but the big difference is control. When a movie company signs off on a project it is handed over to the producer who is more or less the boss from that point on. Again that producer still has to answer to his higher ups, but when it comes to the Marvel productions I think Kevin is given a lot more leeway than others mainly because they understand how important that control is. One of the reasons that Marvel created its own studio was maintain control over its franchises. In television there would be too many fingers in the pot.

Smallville would be the exception to this rule, but even it in the end faltered. But it did have a decent run. When it comes down to it, I just wouldn't trust TV executives to handle these characters with the respect and care that I would want or expect them to.

I really have to disagree with this. even the bit about Kevin, unless you're just strictly referring to the Avengers franchise as far as us having this conversation.

The Incredible Hulk was one of the most well done tv shows based on a comic property and did a great deal in terms of expanding the fan base. My mom and dad would have no idea who the Hulk was if it wasn't for that television show, and they're so far out of the demographic both now and even back when it was still on TV.

Hab