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xaraan

Staff Writer

Postby xaraan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:26 pm

It did seem to have more of the James Bondness to it with the characters good and bad added in, the casino "Bond, James Bond" line, the one liners, etc. but still felt like the Daniel Craig Bond I prefer.
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Arion

Twenty-Something

Postby Arion » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:53 pm

syxxpakk wrote:Best Bond of 'em all.


I haven't seen all Bond movies, but I've seen a lot. And so far Skyfall is my favorite.
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syxxpakk

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby syxxpakk » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:22 pm

I'm a Bond-fanatic so I've seen 'em all, and it's the best.

For top 3 I'd go Skyfall, From Russia With Love, Casino Royale.
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Grayson

Outhouse Drafter

Postby Grayson » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:54 pm

It was good and it could definitely be considered one of the best Bond movies but it was nowhere near as good as Casino Royale. At least in my opinion.
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Rockman

Rain Partier

Postby Rockman » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:56 pm

One thing I"ll say about this movie compared to Casino Royale (which I felt was better) is that I didn't feel the long runtime on this movie at all, it was paced very well. Where as in CR I really felt that pacing really made you take note of the longer runtime.
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~Alima~

Motherfucker from Hell

Postby ~Alima~ » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:46 pm

I didn't feel the lag like some of you. Bond flicks all have moments if downtime, And the moments in this one were relevant.
I'm happy that they had the elements: great opening, a naked chick in the credits, an expendable chick (though the best way was in Goldfinger), maniacal madman (granted he was a bit too like Christopher Walkins in view to a kill), losing a loved one, his awesome comebacks, the coatrack, and losing his toys in a grandiose manner. The only thing lacking was the female partner not getting killed, but of course that couldn't happen in this one. Man I wanna see it again.
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Eli Katz

OMCTO

Postby Eli Katz » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:24 pm

Okay movie but kinda silly. The action was just too unrealistic for me. Casino Royale is sooooooo much better than Skyfall.
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holtom2000

dINGO

Postby holtom2000 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:34 pm

Loved the exploding pen reference and the gold finger car.
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superfictious

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Postby superfictious » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:35 pm

I agree that Casino Royale was clearly a better movie. I just think that Skyfall gave us a better Bond.
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Wally Brando

Rain Partier

Postby Wally Brando » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:54 pm

I think Skyfall was a better directed movie, and more visually appealing. But Casino Royale was a better story and overall movie.
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HNutz

Rain Partier

Postby HNutz » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:10 am

Even though I like the new M, I'm kinda shocked about what happened to Dame Judi Dench. It felt like a bit of a waste.

Felt like the movie was bookended with death.
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Eli Katz

OMCTO

Postby Eli Katz » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:53 am

Here's what took me out of the film:

1) The invincibility of Bond. How the hell does he survive the opening scene? Who saves him? How do they save him given what he has just endured? I need some kind of plausible explanation, even a brief one, and not just a narrative gap, to resolve that sequence.

2) The perfect planning of Javier Bardem. For example, he has explosive located in a subway tunnel, in the event that he gets cornered at exactly that spot so that he can escape. That's one of many convenient details that allow Bardem to continue on with his diabolical plan, when he should have been stopped well before.

3) Flashlights in the dark. Why would M allow the use of that flashlight, when they are being pursued in the dark? I know that it's done so that the bad guys can find her for the big finale, but it was too great a lapse in judgment.

That said, here's what I really liked about Skyfall:

1) Bardem is a very creepy villain, worthy of a Bond movie.

2) The William Tell scene.
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Draco x

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Postby Draco x » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:12 pm

Eli Katz wrote:Here's what took me out of the film:

1) The invincibility of Bond. How the hell does he survive the opening scene? Who saves him? How do they save him given what he has just endured? I need some kind of plausible explanation, even a brief one, and not just a narrative gap, to resolve that sequence.

2) The perfect planning of Javier Bardem. For example, he has explosive located in a subway tunnel, in the event that he gets cornered at exactly that spot so that he can escape. That's one of many convenient details that allow Bardem to continue on with his diabolical plan, when he should have been stopped well before.

3) Flashlights in the dark. Why would M allow the use of that flashlight, when they are being pursued in the dark? I know that it's done so that the bad guys can find her for the big finale, but it was too great a lapse in judgment.

That said, here's what I really liked about Skyfall:

1) Bardem is a very creepy villain, worthy of a Bond movie.

2) The William Tell scene.


Agreed for the most part with what you're saying but the gripes I had about the film were these:

1. The unresolved cliffhanger from the last two Bond films with Mr. White and Quantum. I mean whatever happened to them? They were never once mentioned in Skyfall, so it can be assumed that these guys are still at large. It would been helpful if Skyfall tied into this organization which Bond has been chasing for the last 2 movies instead of just ignoring them completely. I would have prefered if it was revealed that Silva was working for Quantum who were funding his campaign to stick it to M from behind the scenes, showing these guys were still at large.
2. The way that Silva died in the end was so dumb. They made this guy out to be the mirror opposite of James Bond that was supposed to be badass and all he did was get knifed in the back? I would have prefered if he and Bond had fought it out hand to hand like a lot of the other villains like Jaws, Stamper, Trevelayan, Renard and Gustav Graves. If the guy was an MI6 agent like himself he should have given Bond a good fight hand to hand if this was the case. This was even more disappointing than the Stallone/ Van Damme fight in Expendables 2.
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Chesscub

WTF is this rank?

Postby Chesscub » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:23 pm

I felt this movie was more of a M movie than a Bond movie. It was a good Bond film but it was not a great Bond film like Goldfinger or Casino Royale.
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Rockman

Rain Partier

Postby Rockman » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:14 pm

Eli Katz wrote:Here's what took me out of the film:

1) The invincibility of Bond. How the hell does he survive the opening scene? Who saves him? How do they save him given what he has just endured? I need some kind of plausible explanation, even a brief one, and not just a narrative gap, to resolve that sequence.

2) The perfect planning of Javier Bardem. For example, he has explosive located in a subway tunnel, in the event that he gets cornered at exactly that spot so that he can escape. That's one of many convenient details that allow Bardem to continue on with his diabolical plan, when he should have been stopped well before.

3) Flashlights in the dark. Why would M allow the use of that flashlight, when they are being pursued in the dark? I know that it's done so that the bad guys can find her for the big finale, but it was too great a lapse in judgment.

That said, here's what I really liked about Skyfall:

1) Bardem is a very creepy villain, worthy of a Bond movie.

2) The William Tell scene.


Concerning 2)

It can be assumed (but probably shouldn't) that he always planned to blow up that section of the subway because it would create a blockade to stop anyone from following him. He probably had the route pre-planned and always planned to block his exit.

But any movie with these wheel within wheel schemes always has some unbelievable stuff in them. Like all of the Joker's plans in TDK.

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