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by **habitual** » Mon May 07, 2012 3:42 pm

I can't imagine you could fit a story this big with this many characters in just one film.

So could it be done as a trilogy?

Will it be a crossover movie after the Fantastic Four reboot?

What's the best way to move forward with this idea?

Give me your thoughts.

Hab

by **MrBlack** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:05 pm

Like the first Avengers film, it will need some other movies to feed into it and set the stage for the story. We may want to see the gems referenced in the other films, before finally having the Gauntlet itself come together in an Avengers sequel.

I would actually rather not see the Infinitey Gauntlet addressed in the next film, if just because the story would be so big that there would not be room for a third film. Perhaps have a Masters of Evil story with the Red Skull taking Zemo's place. We find out that Skull had been cast into the Soul Gem by the Tesseract and that he had remained there in limbo for the last sixty odd years. He eventually freed himself (or so he thinks) and uses the gem to return to Earth seeking revenge. The gem allows him not only to locate allies to match the prowess of the Avengers (drawn from the films leading into the second movie), but also to persuade them to join his cause. Big fight ensues, Avengers win, villains are imprisoned. Thor takes the Soul Gem, as he did the Tesseract, and places it in Asgard alongside some of the other gems, which Odin has been guarding for ages. Little does anyone know that this was Thanos' plan all along, as we see him hiding in the Soul Gem waiting for the proper time to seize the gauntlet...

At least one of the subsequent films deals with finding one or more of the remaining Infinity Gems. Once they are all found, Thanos makes his play and seizes the Gauntlet at the beginning of the third Avengers film.

by **Grayson** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:08 pm

Honestly, I would place elements of the story into each solo movie leading up to the sequel to Avengers.

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Ideally, Thor 2 should have been the next movie so that we could see the immediate fallout from Avengers. What happens to Loki, the Tesseract, and the Infinity Gauntlet are all questions that need to be answered before a third Iron Man movie or any other solo Marvel movie, to lay the ground work for the Infinity Gems and the coming of Thanos.

by **Starlord** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:12 pm

This is going to be a really stupid question but the Tesseract is actually the Cosmic Cube, right?

by **MrBlack** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:13 pm

Starlord wrote:This is going to be a really stupid question but the Tesseract is actually the Cosmic Cube, right?

Yes.

by **syxxpakk** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:18 pm

I think it could be done in two movies - Thor 2 and then Avengers 2.

by **chap22** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:35 pm

i'd actually rather see the big Avengers Annual #7/MTIO Annual #2 death of Thanos & Adam Warlock story than the Infinity Gauntlet, myself (although the Cap standing up to Thanos by himself moment from IG needs to be there either way). and Whedon's even name-dropped that particular story as a fave of his in an interview, so here's hoping...

by **habitual** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:44 pm

I think Thanos needs to be built up for the non-comic fans to be an effective villain, possibly as a sub-plot in the FF reboot.

I think it would be more pragmatic for the next Avengers film to go in a Masters of Evil direction as opposed to jumping right into the Infinity Gauntlet. It would be easier to establish the antagonists in the individual films, like a Dynamo sub plot in Iron Man 3, film audiences are already aware of the Abomination, etc.

Hab

by **e_galston** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:51 pm

Unless Fox and Disney decide to work together the FF reboot isn't part of the movie universe...

by **Jack Burton** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:52 pm

I feel like the Thanos they may use will be more like the Ultimate/Darkseidish version. That's really more based on them using the Ultimate name for the Cosmic Cube though. I'd rather the classic Starlin version so hopefully I'm wrong.

by **habitual** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:55 pm

Jack Burton wrote:I feel like the Thanos they may use will be more like the Ultimate/Darkseidish version. That's really more based on them using the Ultimate name for the Cosmic Cube though. I'd rather the classic Starlin version so hopefully I'm wrong.

I think Giffen did a better job building up Thanos than Starlin.

The point that he took over that mini is really what gave birth to the version of the Marvel cosmic universe that we have today.

Hab

by **habitual** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:55 pm

Sitebreaker wrote:Unless Fox and Disney decide to work together the FF reboot isn't part of the movie universe...

I thought that I had heard a recent announcement regarding this.

Hab

by **chap22** » Mon May 07, 2012 5:08 pm

habitual wrote:
I think Giffen did a better job building up Thanos than Starlin.

The point that he took over that mini is really what gave birth to the version of the Marvel cosmic universe that we have today.

Hab

I realize that you love Annihilation, and I share that sentiment, but your quoted post above is just straight-up hogshit. Thanos was almost an afterthought in the Annihilation stuff Giffen handled. He was one of many threats, was never as big a deal as Annihilus, and really didn't do much until he got killed.

The stuff Starlin did with Thanos in the 70s (the classic Warlock/Avengers/Mar-Vell/etc stuff) and again the late 80s/early 90s (Thanos Quest, Infinity Gauntlet, etc) just pisses all over Annihilation in terms of establishing Thanos's threat level

by **habitual** » Mon May 07, 2012 5:12 pm

chap22 wrote:I realize that you love Annihilation, and I share that sentiment, but your quoted post above is just straight-up hogshit. Thanos was almost an afterthought in the Annihilation stuff Giffen handled. He was one of many threats, was never as big a deal as Annihilus, and really didn't do much until he got killed.

The stuff Starlin did with Thanos in the 70s (the classic Warlock/Avengers/Mar-Vell/etc stuff) and again the late 80s/early 90s (Thanos Quest, Infinity Gauntlet, etc) just pisses all over Annihilation in terms of establishing Thanos's threat level

No. just no.

This was WAY before Annihilation.

I love how Starlin handled the character especially in the Death of Captain Marvel, Giffen just took it to the next level.

Hab

by **chap22** » Mon May 07, 2012 5:22 pm

habitual wrote:
No. just no.

This was WAY before Annihilation.

I love how Starlin handled the character especially in the Death of Captain Marvel, Giffen just took it to the next level.

Hab

So, what, you're talking about the 6 issues of the mid-'00s series he wrote? You're still smoking wacky weed if you think that comes close to sniffing the 70s stuff or Quest/Gauntlet. Out of your goddamn mind.