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by **e_galston** » Sat May 19, 2012 6:14 pm

Rockman wrote:Last episode of YJ just continues the trend of this season irritating me to no end. If this was an experiment to see how quickly they could lose all the fans and good will they built from season 1, then I'd say about 3 episodes.

except for the fact that most people i know who watch the show but don't post on this site (or any comic site for that matter) love the current season...

by **Rockman** » Sat May 19, 2012 7:01 pm

Sitebreaker wrote:
except for the fact that most people i know who watch the show but don't post on this site (or any comic site for that matter) love the current season...

4realz answer? Because the world is full of awful, generic, unoriginal, bland, cheesy, lowest-common-denominator shit. It is 90-95% of the output of television, and 99% of the output of everything when you factor in shit like all the awful music and whatnot that is produced. It is very rare that there is something of quality that intelligent and enlightened people can appreciate, and so when something great comes along, people get really attached to it. They feel like, all the idiots and cattle have all that shit, can we have this ONE thing. Just this one, and leave it alone. And then some fascist corporation like Warner Brothers takes it away from them, so they can try to squeeze a few more bucks out of it or replace it with more of the same crap. I mean, TV shows fail all the time, when you're competing for the moron audience, morons only have so much time in the day to watch 30 singing competition reality shows. So you would think it would make some kind of business sense to keep a few shows around to appeal to the non-idiot demographic, if anyone in a suit just stopped and thought about it, those people buy stuff too and so should be advertised to. So when you have something that is successful with them, even if it is not as successful as America's Next Best Talentless Reality Star, why not keep it around and give those people what they want? This is frustrating, and so people get annoyed

by **Cat-Scratch** » Sat May 19, 2012 7:15 pm

Zechs wrote:This show is still a hundred times better than New 52 DC. I will give it that.

Let me be a good minion and help you with that.

Zechs wrote:This show is still a hundred times better than New 52 DC. I will give it that.

Website · by **prozacman** » Sat May 19, 2012 10:52 pm

I am loving this season of Young Justice. Especially after today's episode were we got to see what happened to the rest of the team. I really don't get all the hate. :smt017

by **Thor-El** » Sat May 19, 2012 11:21 pm

prozacman wrote:I am loving this season of Young Justice. Especially after today's episode were we got to see what happened to the rest of the team. I really don't get all the hate.

I just think it is beyond the realm of possibility to please all comics fans. Even when they have 4 extremely good to somewhat decent comic book based shows on TV they are still going to have some complaints about one or all of them.

I love the time skip, it has given the writers the chance to show us things that we would have probably never gotten to see on TV. I mean a few episodes ago I got to see Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl, and Robin all on screen kicking ass together, that was just awesome! Speaking of Nightwing I get to see him as a leader of a team and that is something I have always wanted to see on one of the shows. Love that YJ is the main focus but then we get to see such a boarder scale of the entire DCU, that they are reinventing while still using the rich history that all the characters provide, it is honestly an almost perfect balance of new and old and I think it is amazing.

by **Rockman** » Sat May 19, 2012 11:55 pm

prozacman wrote:I am loving this season of Young Justice. Especially after today's episode were we got to see what happened to the rest of the team. I really don't get all the hate.

Because a butt ton of interesting things apparently happened during this time skip, and we're stuck speculating on which boring shadowy figure is hanging out with Sportsmaster.

I like Beastboy, I like Blue Beetle, I don't like a million things happening off screen.

by **Thor-El** » Sat May 19, 2012 11:58 pm

Rockman wrote:
Because a butt ton of interesting things apparently happened during this time skip, and we're stuck speculating on which boring shadowy figure is hanging out with Sportsmaster.

I like Beastboy, I like Blue Beetle, I don't like a million things happening off screen.

To be fair there have only be a handful of episodes this season, there are still a lot to come. The gaps and stories can and I believe will be filled in sooner or later.

by **Rockman** » Sun May 20, 2012 12:09 am

Tee-Roy'd wrote:
To be fair there have only be a handful of episodes this season, there are still a lot to come. The gaps and stories can and I believe will be filled in sooner or later.

We're still getting way less of the original team we grew to love in season 1.

That to me is the biggest problem of all.

All these new characters are really only interesting to comic fans I think.

Except Lagoon boy, he's awful and should die in an oil spill.

by **Greg** » Sun May 20, 2012 12:15 am

by **Zechs** » Sun May 20, 2012 12:50 am

All I can say is.. I cannot wait until the fifth or sixth episode. Then FINALLY we get true Young Justice.

by **Rockman** » Sun May 20, 2012 1:23 am

what do you know Zechs?

by **Strict31** » Sun May 20, 2012 1:36 am

prozacman wrote:I am loving this season of Young Justice. Especially after today's episode were we got to see what happened to the rest of the team. I really don't get all the hate.

In my case, I wouldn't call it hate. I am still watching the show, after all.

But it's simply a sloppy, lazy storywriting technique. You don't have to resolve conflicts from before the time-jump, because you've substituted them for all new conflicts the audience didn't even know about.

They don't even have to set up the "new" status quo in a believable manner because all the set-up for it happened in that five year gap.

So...Aqualad is now a murderous villain because he found out his dad was evil and his girlfriend (who was fucking his best friend) got killed? Really? He just never really struck me as the type of guy who would set off a bomb that would kill hundreds of living beings (even if they were alien dicks). But because he's pissed off about the death of his ex, and because he was lied to about his dad, he's totally okay with mass murder?

I mean, because of the high quality of the first season, I'm more than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. To have a sense of faith that this shit will eventually be handled with the same craft and skill as the first season.

by **Cat-Scratch** » Sun May 20, 2012 1:41 pm

I'm still enjoying it.

The jump has it's good points and bad points. Most of which has been covered by others here. But the jump brought the team closer to being what's around these days... sort of. Think pre-Flashpoint.

Also, last season, they had easter eggs in every episode shadowing the future story. Same here I would imagine.

Good Gawd this show beats the hell out of the comics these days.

by **e_galston** » Sun May 20, 2012 2:20 pm

we are only 4 episodes into the season... do you really expect everything to be revealed right now?? we have 16 more episodes to go in this season...

by **Rockman** » Sun May 20, 2012 4:43 pm

Sitebreaker wrote:we are only 4 episodes into the season... do you really expect everything to be revealed right now?? we have 16 more episodes to go in this season...

What's supposed to be revealed? Is the time jump a storytelling technique that will be relevent? Or is it just a gimmick we all assume it is.

And I was so pissed at Sportsmaster having ANOTHER shadowy figure working with him, this show has beat that plot device to death so many times at this point.