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[Benderbrau]

:lol: A Guardians of the Galaxy film.

"We are very excited about bringing things like that, maybe things exactly like that, to the screen. [...] When you tell people, you know what would be really cool? This movie, and there's a raccoon, and there's a tree... And they go, 'What?' And people like you know what it is, and get excited. And the majority of people go, 'Did you say a raccoon and a tree?' 'Oh yeah, they're going to steal the whole movie. They're hilarious.' 'Okay, I'll believe it when I see it.' I like that."

"Yeah, so you couple of thousand nerds will laugh at a talking tree and a raccoon, and real people aren't interested in the property, let's make it our next big blockbuster"

Pixar could pull it off.

[Chris]

Actually two good movies is the track record of most people involved in superhero movies. Bryan Singer's X-men 1 and 2, Richard Donner's Superman 1 and 2, David S. Goyer for Blade 1 and 2. Tim Burton's Batman 1 and 2. So he's not really better then anyone else.

X-Men was only ok.

X2 was great.

I'll give you Donner, and Burton.

Goyer didn't direct Blade 1 and 2.

Stephen Norrington directed Blade, and Guillermo Del Toro directed Blade 2.


So two definites in Donner and Burton, and a MAYBE in Singer if you want to be generous with X-Men 1.. and I would put the two Nolan Batman movies ahead of both overall.

[Chris]

I don't think the Nolan films were awesome. I really think his work outside of comics is far superior.

The first film had trerrible fights scenes and editing problems.
The second film was really bolstered by a great performance from Ledger. The fight scenes were still lackluster, and Bale wasn't particularly good in the cowl.

I like that Nolan takes the work seriously, but I don't get all the love for the films.

I respect your opinion. You are entitled to be wrong.

I would rank Nolan's films (those that I've seen):

1. Inception
2. The Dark Knight
3. Memento
4a. Batman Begins
4b. The Prestige
6. Insomnia

[Benderbrau]

X-Men was only ok.

X2 was great.

I'll give you Donner, and Burton.

Goyer didn't direct Blade 1 and 2.

Stephen Norrington directed Blade, and Guillermo Del Toro directed Blade 2.


So two definites in Donner and Burton, and a MAYBE in Singer if you want to be generous with X-Men 1.. and I would put the two Nolan Batman movies ahead of both overall.

Goyer wrote both Blade movies so I felt he was entitled to be included.

[AaronW]

Nolan's Batman movies were good but quite overrated IMO.

[Benderbrau]

Nolan's Batman movies were good but quite overrated IMO.

Nolan's Batman relyed on a singular gimmick: a realistic Batman. I remember watching the trailers for the first movie, especially the scene where he's in the Batcave folding up all the tiny Batarangs to put in his belt, and thinking "Wow! I can't wait to see what all the things we take for granted in the comics would be like if they were in the real world. This'll be exciting!" And it was fascinating no doubt - for one movie. But after that it just kinda lost it's appeal for me. With that curiosity out of the way there just wasn't anything else to hold it up because, let's face it, at the end of the day realism is boring. It's like when Alex Ross first started appearing. Everyone was like "Wow I can't wait to see what my favorite superhero will look like when drawn realistically" But once everyone's curiosity was satisfied (which didn't take long because between Kingdom Come and Marvels he crammed just about ever DC and Marvel character into just two stories) it just kind of fizzled because that curiosity was just about the only thing holding most of his books up. IMO Christopher Nolan is the Alex Ross of movies.

[Chesscub]

Actually two good movies is the track record of most people involved in superhero movies. Bryan Singer's X-men 1 and 2, Richard Donner's Superman 1 and 2, David S. Goyer for Blade 1 and 2. Tim Burton's Batman 1 and 2. So he's not really better then anyone else.

Jon Favreau's Iron Man 1 and 2.

[Chris]

Nolan's Batman relyed on a singular gimmick: a realistic Batman. I remember watching the trailers for the first movie, especially the scene where he's in the Batcave folding up all the tiny Batarangs to put in his belt, and thinking "Wow! I can't wait to see what all the things we take for granted in the comics would be like if they were in the real world. This'll be exciting!" And it was fascinating no doubt - for one movie. But after that it just kinda lost it's appeal for me. With that curiosity out of the way there just wasn't anything else to hold it up because, let's face it, at the end of the day realism is boring. It's like when Alex Ross first started appearing. Everyone was like "Wow I can't wait to see what my favorite superhero will look like when drawn realistically" But once everyone's curiosity was satisfied (which didn't take long because between Kingdom Come and Marvels he crammed just about ever DC and Marvel character into just two stories) it just kind of fizzled because that curiosity was just about the only thing holding most of his books up. IMO Christopher Nolan is the Alex Ross of movies.

That's an odd viewpoint.

Batman is the weakest part of Nolan's movies.. whether that's a good thing or not is clearly up for debate, as that shouldn't be the case.. but IMO, Nolan's movies relied on the plot rather than the character. Both movies, but TDK especially, are terrific crime movies on their own without even figuring the Batman aspect into it.

I don't think it's fair to say that the realistic Batman angle is the gimmick which drove the movies.. I think that was true for the hype leading up to the first one, but beyond that, no.

[Rockman]

Raimi's first two Spider-man films were good.

And Iron Man 1 and 2.

I don't think it's that rare.

[Chris]

Jon Favreau's Iron Man 1 and 2.

Iron Man 2, while I liked it, was nowhere near the same quality as the first one. It was uneven.

[Rockman]

I respect your opinion. You are entitled to be wrong.

I would rank Nolan's films (those that I've seen):

1. Inception
2. The Dark Knight
3. Memento
4a. Batman Begins
4b. The Prestige
6. Insomnia

1. Memento
2. Prestige
3. Inception
4. The Dark Knight
5. Batman Begins
6. Insomnia

[Chris]

Spider-Man 2 is one of the best comic book movies ever. But 1, man.. the power ranger Green Goblin ruins every scene he's in.

[Rockman]

Snyder+superman+"edgy"= a recipe for disaster

All that can change with a good preview, but I'm not sold on this.

[Rockman]

Spider-Man 2 is one of the best comic book movies ever. But 1, man.. the power ranger Green Goblin ruins every scene he's in.

It was a stupid costume. But I can look past that. The good outweighs the bad. I thought Dafoe was good as Norman.

[Benderbrau]

Iron Man 2, while I liked it, was nowhere near the same quality as the first one. It was uneven.

Too much pressure from Marvel to gear up for the Avengers movie and attempts at fan service (ie: War Machine) IMO. The movie got cluttered.