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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby Chris » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:06 pm

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Yeah I think RDJ's is by far and a way the best with his portrayal of Tony Stark/Iron Man.

Chris Evans I feel did a great job in both his roles as Steve Rogers/Captain (which I thought was a questionable choice at first) and as Johnny Storm/Human Torch.

Edward Norton was superior to Eric Bana in every way when it came to playing both Hulk/Banner. Gonna have to wait and see how the new guys does in the role but I would have preferred Norton to have remained.

Chris Hemsworth was very believable as the Norse Thunder God, I know before they cast him I couldn't think of anyone else that could have pulled of the role.

Hugh Jackman while not exactly looking like Wolverine from the comics, really excelled in the role. Patrick Steward was the only choice to play Prof. X and Ian McKellan was wonderful as Magneto. James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender were also excellent in playing those parts as well.

Wesley Snipes was entertaining as hell playing Blade, Ryan Reynolds was hilarious as Hannibal King, serviceable as Wade Wilson briefly, and god fucking awful as Hal Jordan/Green Lantern.

Halle Berry sucked as Storm, and was dreadful as Catwoman. Nic Cage was a poor choice to play Ghost Rider even though I did enjoy those movie.

Jack was much better than Heath at playing the Joker IMHO, but both were great for the movies they were in. I still think Michael Keaton was the best of all the Batman with Clooney being the worst, and Kilmer and Bale being somewhere in the middle.

Christopher Reeves is the definitive movie version of Superman and I doubt that ever changes. Routh did a good job with what he was given, and I think if the script had been better his performance would have been as well, he just got a raw deal. The new guy looks the part but I still have little interest in the new movie thus far.

Ron Pearlman is the only one that I think comes close to being better that RDJ as far as casting goes, because he was damn near spot on perfect in the role of Hellboy.

Thats all I can think of right now.


Disagree there. I think Nicholson is really overrated. He basically plays an exaggerated version of himself in it (and pretty much every movie he's ever in.) Way too many of his usual quirks that he brings to every role. Whereas Ledger really just flat out disappeared in it.. I mean, you could not look at any of his other roles and compare it to The Joker and see similarities. One of the most drastic changes I've ever seen.
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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby leechjudd » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:07 pm

I think I'm the only one that doesn't like spiderman 2. I prefer the first movie. The origin part was perfect, after it kinda went down hill.

The problem I had with Iron Man 2 was Rourke wasn't wearing any protective gear at all. How bad of a threat could he be when we saw iron man headshot 5 terrorists with ease in the first movie. also, all the additional avengers set up ruined the movie.

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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby leechjudd » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:08 pm

The lesson they should learn from the Nolan batman shouldn't be dark and gritty, it should be, the movie was 'smart' compared to other superhero movies. It had meat to the story rather than all flash, which is what I'm afraid of the snyder superman

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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby sdsichero » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:13 pm

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RDJ was born to play Tony Stark. That is the best casting of all-time. It's not even fair to compare anyone to it.. the guy doesn't have an off-switch for that role. That's him, camera on or off.


I love RDJ's Stark. It's funny because I don't think that is the Tony Stark I knew, but now it's how he should be.

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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby rdrsfn82 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:13 pm

The reason Marvel has been successful, and Nolan's Batman movies, is because they treat the stories seriously and treat the characters as actual people. That's it. The tones are wildly varied from The Dark Knight to Iron Man to Captain America, but all are good movies and entertaining and connected to audiences. Same with Hellboy or Blade (to an extent) or the good Spider-Man and X-Men movies. All of which have wildly different tones, as well.

That's what WB doesn't understand, that's the lesson that Superman should take from these movies, and I hope it's one they did learn.

Grim and gritty =/= good
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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby sdsichero » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:15 pm

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Disagree there. I think Nicholson is really overrated. He basically plays an exaggerated version of himself in it (and pretty much every movie he's ever in.) Way too many of his usual quirks that he brings to every role. Whereas Ledger really just flat out disappeared in it.. I mean, you could not look at any of his other roles and compare it to The Joker and see similarities. One of the most drastic changes I've ever seen.


I liked Nicholson's Joker, it was different. I found Ledger's Joker to be okay but overrated (yeah yeah I know). Really disliked Batman Begins. Thought Dark Knight had very good production values, but it was pretty overrated to me. All of the three main characters were not so great to me, though of them all, Ledger was the best. The others, Gordon and Fox were better in their roles.

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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby Thor-El » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:17 pm

Holland Oats wrote:
Disagree there. I think Nicholson is really overrated. He basically plays an exaggerated version of himself in it (and pretty much every movie he's ever in.) Way too many of his usual quirks that he brings to every role. Whereas Ledger really just flat out disappeared in it.. I mean, you could not look at any of his other roles and compare it to The Joker and see similarities. One of the most drastic changes I've ever seen.


I can agree with that. I didn't mean it to seem like I was trying to discredit anything that Ledger did as his performance was the best thing about Dark Knight IMHO. I just preferred Jack's version of the Joker is all, not saying either was bad.
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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby sdsichero » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:21 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:they treat the stories seriously and treat the characters as actual people.


They did this in Superman Returns. Because you know if you had X-Ray vision, you'd be staring at your chosen sex as much as possible too.

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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby rdrsfn82 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:23 pm

As for the best castings, I think maybe possibly RDJ is #2 behind Perlman as Hellboy. While Tony Stark is just about perfect as played by RDJ, Hellboy is perfect and Perlman has the added difficulty of doing it from under all that makeup at all times. There's just not many people that can pull off that great a performance while also wearing that much makeup.

Evans was pretty perfect with a tricky role as Steve Rogers, and nailed it without making the character corny, and Hugo Weaving was a pretty perfect Red Skull in limited screen time. Ledger just totally disappeared into the Joker role, and I feel Eckart is wildly underrated for how great he was as Harvey in the same movie as a result. Wesley Snipes wasn't on an acting level with any of those guys, but was absolutely perfect as Blade, to the point that much like RDJ as Iron Man it's impossible to picture anyone else in that role ever doing it nearly as well. I love Jackman as Wolverine. There's a lot of other good jobs by various people, but I'd say that's the top tier.

I think Dafoe (who's name sounds like a Parrot talking to a Frog) would be a lot higher if not for the hideous costume.
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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby rdrsfn82 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:23 pm

sdsichero wrote:
They did this in Superman Returns. Because you know if you had X-Ray vision, you'd be staring at your chosen sex as much as possible too.


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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby chap22 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:44 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:As for the best castings, I think maybe possibly RDJ is #2 behind Perlman as Hellboy. While Tony Stark is just about perfect as played by RDJ, Hellboy is perfect and Perlman has the added difficulty of doing it from under all that makeup at all times. There's just not many people that can pull off that great a performance while also wearing that much makeup.

Evans was pretty perfect with a tricky role as Steve Rogers, and nailed it without making the character corny, and Hugo Weaving was a pretty perfect Red Skull in limited screen time. Ledger just totally disappeared into the Joker role, and I feel Eckart is wildly underrated for how great he was as Harvey in the same movie as a result. Wesley Snipes wasn't on an acting level with any of those guys, but was absolutely perfect as Blade, to the point that much like RDJ as Iron Man it's impossible to picture anyone else in that role ever doing it nearly as well. I love Jackman as Wolverine. There's a lot of other good jobs by various people, but I'd say that's the top tier.

I think Dafoe (who's name sounds like a Parrot talking to a Frog) would be a lot higher if not for the hideous costume.

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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby SaturnKnight » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:51 pm

Chesscub wrote:Just please, don't use Lex. Apart from Superman 3, he's been in every stinking movie.


No Lex Luthor in Man Of Steel. Only Zod and one other rumored villain who is supposedly set up for the sequel.
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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby Chris » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:52 pm

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No Lex Luthor in Man Of Steel. Only Zod and one other rumored villain who is supposedly set up for the sequel.


Please let it be Brainiac or Metallo.
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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby SaturnKnight » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:53 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
I've just never been enamored with the design. I'd love to see a Brainiac though.


No official confirmation yet, but the buzz is that the "unnamed force" that destroys Krypton is Brainiac (thus setting him up to fight Superman in the sequel).
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Re: The new superman film sounds really good.

Postby SaturnKnight » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:55 pm

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Please let it be Brainiac or Metallo.

Yeah, the rumors are that it is Brainiac. It took almost 30 years, but it looks like we're finally getting him in a Superman movie. I can't wait. 8)
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