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Not really a ton of interesting stuff since the intro to be honest.

The Diva match was a waste of life and the crowd was dead.

Miz vs Santino was OK, but I don't think the winner was ever in doubt.

Jericho vs Big Show has been fun, but nothing amazing. I like how it took over 30 seconds for a 10 count. Kind of a dumb ending that was poorly timed by the ref..

I guess the idea there was for Show to lose another match with an odd ending, but he didn't lose because of that he lost because he was on his ass outside the ring and even if Jericho was right next to him he wouldn't have won. Kind of ruined a decent little match.

Anyways, it's all pointless anyways since they said Jericho didn't make it and Miz still has the time to beat, the confusion didn't seem to add anything to anything.

And now Brodus is back to fighting jobbers. I really like JTG and think he deserves better, but he's just a jobber and this kind of boring non-competitive crap is just killing any kind of chance Brodus has of being seen as a real threat. And at this point it has no positive outcome at all. Eitehr Brodus takes forever to beat a nobody and looks bad, or he beats someoen no one cares about and people are bored. His reactions are dying down more and more each week. He doesn't need to dance with kids in the ring, he needs to have a real feud. I thought the stuff with Santino vs Swagger and Ziggler would be that, but they dropped it and turned it into nothingness. I really don't get what they are doing here.

Not a very good show so far.

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I think the fact that the big mid-show segment was focused on a squash, a couple recaps, and a backstage segment sums up what's wrong with this show so far.

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Oh look, Swagger vs Orton. Thanks to the shit with Clay, there's no real reason for Swagger to be seen as having any chance of winning, and Orton will set the new time since Clay fucking beat Swagger in less time a couple weeks ago.

It really feels like outside of a handful of feuds, they really have no idea what they are doing for the most part on RAW, and this night is suffering as a result. Plus, the whole different brand thing just boggles the mind when a guy like Orton is supposed to be on Smackdown but is fighting for a chance to face the RAW champ, even though there's supposed to be a draft episode coming up soon. I mean, why the fuck should anyone give a fuck about the draft when shit like this is going on?

Whatever, this ahs been a fun match taken in a vacuum and it's nice to see Swagger allowed to actually look good for once, even if the finish wasn't really in doubt.

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So the Bellas are fired? Why is that a storyline? And if it's not a storyline, why have one of them win the title last week?

I don't understand anything they do with the Divas in general, but that's especially dumb.

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As always, i hope against hope that the tag division will return some day.

And as always, I expect to be disappointed.

Here's a match with 4 guys that are all probably best served in tag formats, all of whom have been good in tag matches, and the crowd seems really into it. Of course it will lead to nothing, but the company has all these guys it has no idea how to use, and a tag division could really give a lot of guys like Swagger/Ziggler or Kofi/Truth or whomever something to do.

But then they have tag champs that do nothing, win the title, and then lose them to a team that's been together for 5 minutes. Then the new champs get on TV for a couple weeks, then they get ignored or move on to a new feud with each other while the titles go back to limbo.

Tonight doesn't really change any of that, even if it was a pretty fun match and there's a lot of room to potentially build a real division out of this.

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I really hope these Abe Washington segments lead to something some time soon. I think a giant faction of unappreciated wrestlers as a dominant force with a plan and cohesion could be fun.

I'm sure instead it will lead to nothing and be ignored 5 minutes later.

You couldn't pay me to watch Khali vs Kane. More Smackdown guys fighting for the #1 contender on RAW, more guys that have no real storyline reason to deserve a title shot, and unlike some of these other matches this one had no chance to be good.

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King gets a chance at a title shot? Really?

Fuck you WWE writers. Fuck you. Why the fuck wouldn't this be Ziggler? Oh that's right, because they are wasting him on pointlessness. So why not Clay or Ryback or whatever?

I don't get this.

And if Bryan doesn't win in under the time, I really don't get this (unless Shamus costs him or something). This guy was fighting for the title last night, he was champ heading into WM, he made Shamus pass out, and he's fighting a senior citizen.

That said, Lawler can put on a decent match from time to time still and Bryan could put on a great match with a broom, so this should at least be OK.

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OK, that worked out fine. Punk vs Bryan is a potentially amazing fucking title match, and he beat Jerry way ahead of the time limit which is how that should have played out.

I like that he was fighting to repress a smile when Punk came out, then just gave up and embraced his joy for a moment.

I hope these two feud all summer.

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I really hoped Cena's speech last night would be a sign he'd be gone for a bit.

Still possible they go that route, but he needs to take time off and heal properly.

Anyways, Cena being jokey here with Ace is working well so far, and I like this segment so far. This is the kind of guy Cena shouldn't take seriously and should act like this with. It's just serious enough to not make it seem like he doesn't see Brock as a real threat or that he's not pissed at Ace, while still seeing Ace as a joke.

The crowd really doesn't care about Tensai, but I think using him right over the next month and in his match with Cena a the PPV and then in future feuds this summer could change that.

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Holy shit, I didn't see that cheap shot by Ace coming, and really didn't see Ace cs Cena coming.

I mean, I thought there might be a beating here, but not that Ace would finally snap and get involved, much less start it.

Wow, this was a crazy ending to the show. I hope this doesn't lead to Ace getting "fired", and I'd be totally OK with the match never happening and this beating just leading to Cena being out for a while. Even if Brock did most of the work, these guys finishing him off is pretty great.

Strong end to a very uneven show.

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After the end of the show, I think it's hard to say definitively that Ace vs Cena will actually happen and that Cena isn't taking time off.

The stuff about them just moving this story from Punk is true, but I don't care because we got Punk vs Jericho for the last few months and Punk vs Bryan now.

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As for Brock, like I said I didn't see the show, but based on what they showed and especially how bloody Cena was, he looks like a fucking beast and a maniac. While they didn't play it the way I thought they were going to, they still did it in a way that works, IMO.

And right now, I have no idea where they go from here with him. He might go against HHH, he might be off TV for a month or two, he might be done with the company altogether, or he might feud with someone like Shamus or whatever. I honestly have no idea, but whoever he fights will be facing a pissed off monster that looks totally nuts. Now, if he loses 5 or 6 straight PPVs, that could be an issue, but right now he's far from ruined.

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Apparently Cena's post-match promo at Extreme Rules was not scripted and he was supposed to be stretchered out.

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Just finished Raw. That sucked.

I was thinking that after Rock and Lesnar, they have Cena fight another big guy like Austin or Foley. Fighting Johnny Ace is fucking stupid. They took the Johnny feud away from Punk who was doing a great job with it. Also, I'm tired of Cena matches overshadowing the title matches. Punk/Bryan should be the main event. Cena should've taken a month off.

Agreed, Cena should have taken the summer if not longer off.

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The opening was really really dragging once HHH came out until Brock attacked. That should have happened a lot sooner.

That said, once Brock went nuts it was pretty great and nice to see him go fucking nuts like that on HHH. Made him look like a total badass.

Agreed, HHH just kept repeating himself and it was getting boring.