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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby Juan Cena » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:43 am

Punchy wrote:
I thought most people were against the family-friendly PG stuff?

To be honest, the satanic nature of the Undertaker character himself flies in the face of PG.

It seems that the internet wants the 'Attitude Era' back, but when they get it, they don't like it.


They want frat boy humor and cussing and divas in raunchy outfits, not wrestlers pouring the cremated remains of dead people on other wrestlers.
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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby Punchy » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:05 am

Juan Cena wrote:
They want frat boy humor and cussing and divas in raunchy outfits, not wrestlers pouring the cremated remains of dead people on other wrestlers.


I'd rather have the latter than the former.

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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby Bianco » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:18 am

It's WWE that sent out the statement, I think everyone was ok with the bit, 'taker himself wouldn't go through with it if he thought it was over the line.

To update yesterday’s post, WWE representative Adam Hopkins reached out and asked that we post the following text message that WWE officials received from Paul Bearer’s son Michael Moody regarding the closing segment on Monday’s RAW with CM Punk and The Undertaker:

TEXT FROM MICHAEL MOODY TO WWE:

“Hey. I woke up in time to watch the tail end of the show. What you explained would happen happened. Which is fine. Just it was a little difficult to watch it play out. I put a message on Facebook last night saying that we approved it but it wasn’t what I envisioned. That I didn’t have anything to say. Well woke up this morning and that quote is being used all over “media outlets”. For the record. I was fine w it. Was hard to watch but y’all are professionals and I trust.”

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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby kingbeavis » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:36 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Don't care what you think either. It was a pretty classless way of piling heat on Punk and exploiting his death in that manner for weeks on end is messed up.

I keep expecting them to move past this to establish another stake in this feud but it never happens. And it was never funny as the crowd reaction reaffirmed.


I meant for my post to be directed at him, not you. Sorry about that. However I feel the same way about Martha Hart being offended by WWE using Owen as well. Paul Bearer died but I think UT and CM Punk wouldn't have a problem speaking up if they felt the angle crossed the line. I think the issue is he had a different version in his head of what would happen from reading the script vs what happened on camera, not that he was appalled in the angle itself.

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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby Bianco » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:04 pm

http://www.examiner.com/article/wwe-law ... s-likeness

The WWE lawsuit with Martha Hart, the widow of the late Owen Hart, has finally been settled. According to Rajah.com on April 3, the two sides finally came to an agreement on the royalties concerning using Owen's image.

The WWE lawsuit settlement was announced by Martha Hart, Vince McMahon and Linda McMahon on Wednesday. No details were revealed but it appears that the WWE will once again be able to use Owen Hart's likeness for future projects and will compensate Martha for the usage.

Owen Hart died in a tragic accident in 1999 at a WWE pay-per-view. He was portraying a superhero character known as the Blue Blazer and was repelling from the ceiling into the ring when the bungee slipped and he fell to the ring, hitting his head on the corner buckle and dying from a broken neck.

The relationship between the Hart family and the WWE fractured after that. Bret Hart, Owen's brother, was already on the outs with Vince McMahon and this only fuelled his hatred even further. Bret and Vince eventually buried the hatchet a decade later and Bret now makes occasional legends appearances in the WWE.

However, the WWE lawsuit filed by Martha Hart was full of venom and has not lessened in the last decade.

The WWE lawsuit was in place to keep the WWE from making any money off Owen Hart's name or likeness, which Martha Hart gained the rights through after his death. This has caused, among other things, to keep Owen Hart out of the WWE Hall of Fame.

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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby syxxpakk » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:23 pm

pastajoe wrote:
That's funny. The families that watch wrestling aren't going to stop because of that. This is the "family friendly" brand that had Mae Young give birth to a hand. This isn't the same demographic that watches Downton Abbey.


Not been watching lately?
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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby syxxpakk » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:42 pm

So it looks like early HOF-headliner Mick Foley probably won't even have his induction televised.
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Postby rdrsfn82 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:43 pm

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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby Lord Simian » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:06 pm

Watching Raw now. Man, if I'm Hunter, I'm noticing a trend. My "best friend" HBK shows up, once a year, like clockwork... To tell me I dunno what I'm getting myself into, and that I can't do it. Thanks for the support, "buddy". :P

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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby doombug » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:10 pm

syxxpakk wrote:So it looks like early HOF-headliner Mick Foley probably won't even have his induction televised.

why the fuck not?! :smt013
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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby syxxpakk » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:43 pm

I think Stephanie inducting Trish means Trish gets the TV time.
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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:57 pm

syxxpakk wrote:I think Stephanie inducting Trish means Trish gets the TV time.



the only way that could possibly make it more significant than foley's induction is if brock lesnar f5's stephanie off the stage.

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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:24 pm

Watched RAW on Hulu tonight. I liked the Punk/Undertaker thing. I liked that it was offensive. Heels should be offensive. They should do things that are despicable.
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Re: The Official Outhouse All Wrestling Thread!

Postby syxxpakk » Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:35 am

The Charlie Haas story from the Wrestling Observer is this: Grizzly Redwood came and picked a fight with Haas, got one, and then Haas got fired for giving it.

Charlie Haas quit the promotion/was fired abruptly after an incident on the 3/30 show in Asheville, NC. Haas, 41, was reportedly belligerent backstage, and there was also something of a chasm between Haas and Shelton Benjamin with the regulars since they kind of kept to themselves and how they didn’t have the same attitude toward the promotion. It would really be impossible for someone from WWE to have the same attitude toward ROH, and really Haas & Benjamin came in because of Jim Cornette looking for some names that would be better known to there was familiarity to new fans on TV. The incident from internal accounts appeared to start at the 3/3 TV tapings in Chicago from a match with Haas vs. Grizzly Redwood. Redwood was upset because he thought he was going to get more offense in. It was supposed to be one-sided, but he got only a few moves in. When Haas came in, he was described as belligerent and worse, and was rubbing people the wrong way. Redwood, who is the smallest guy in the promotion, was said to have instigated things in that he knocked Haas’ hat off and stomped on it. Haas struck Redwood or got into a fight with him. There are a lot of versions but the one we heard was it was not a closed fist bunch but a hard backhanded slap, hard enough that Redwood was bleeding from it. It was immediately broken up but booker Hunter Johnston was furious and he and Haas got into a loud shouting match. This took place while the fifth match on the show was in the ring but a lot of the fans at the show could hear it going on. Kevin Kelly, who was at the show and has known both Charlie and his brother Russ dating back to when they worked for Jim Kettner in Delaware, tried to diffuse the situation and talk him into leaving. Haas refused to leave and eventually they came to the conclusion it would be easier if he just did his match since he was insistent on it. He faced Jeff Neal, a local worker who is an area radio personality who worked a radio angle with Haas to set up the match. Haas was supposed to win, but instead, Haas put Neal over with a roll-up clean in the middle. Haas did some mic work but they cut his mic off and he stayed in the ring and continued talking loud enough for everyone to hear him. He said he was retiring immediately, that it’s time for him to be a husband and a father, and that next week’s match with Shelton Benjamin on the iPPV wasn’t happening. He thanked the fans and a lot of the locker room, but called Kevin Kelly an office stooge, ripped on booker Johnston, as well as Nigel McGuinness (who he doesn’t get along with). He said he was trading in his wrestling trunks for hospital scrubs. Apparently Haas has just taken a regular well-paying job in the medical profession at his home in Texas and even if this blow-up didn’t happen, was probably not going to be around much longer.
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