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Stephen Day

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby Stephen Day » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:22 pm

syxxpakk wrote:And if you could snatch pretty much everyone in the Bullet Club from NJPW you'd have some good stuff.


Speaking of the Bullet Club, I saw this shoot interview with Prince Devo a couple of weeks ago. I've been intending to post it here, but keep forgetting to do so.

http://culturecrossfire.com/wrestling/q ... y95gIXJgrU

You would be hard pressed to find a hotter name on the international wrestling scene. Fergal “Prince” Devitt is one of the most successful wrestlers to come out of Ireland, competing in the UK and abroad in Japan. Currently in New Japan Pro Wrestling, the former 3-time IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion is the undisputed leader of Bullet Club, a cast of foreign “gaijin” wrestlers. Devitt recently took time out of his busy schedule to conduct an interview with CXF.

Did you grow up as a wrestling fan? Who were some of your influences and how did you get into the business?

My earliest memory of life is watching old World of Sport on TV with my grandad, so really wrestling had been a part of me for as long as I can remember. Of course at that age, I didn’t really understand what I was watching, even still it captivated me. Then Sky TV came to Ireland with WWF and Sean Mooney and the rest is history. Warrior, Koko, Savio Vega, Rick Martel, I loved all the different styles and even at a young age appreciated the villains. HBK stood out for me as being the total package, I even super kicked a kid in my art class out the fire exit door one day in secondary school. At 18, and just finished school, I enrolled for Hammerlock UK‘s summer training camp. It wasn’t even a choice, I had to do it, there was literally nothing else I wanted in life. I never once looked back.

How did you get your break to go to Japan and did you have any familiarity with Japanese wrestling before you went over beforehand? Was there a specific moment when you knew you were going to make it in Japan?

I was wrestling at an NWA convention show in Nashville when Dave Marquez at the Inoki Dojo invited me to train in LA. I had been there about 3 months, training by day, and sleeping in the ring at night. Living off instant noodles and egg whites from a carton. I couldn’t have been happier.

I was then offered a 3 month trial to train in Tokyo. I’ve been there ever since…

I never think about ‘making it’. I don’t look back, or at the present. I’d rather look forward at the list of things I still want to achieve.

Is there a big difference in training in Japan versus when you train elsewhere? What kind of routine do you have?

It’s like black and white.

The main difference is attention to detail, and that’s where the Japanese excel. It’s a very structured training starting with the basics and things don’t progress until every individual hold is perfected.

The other difference is conditioning. As opposed to a mainly body building type of training many western wrestlers will use, Japanese training is more about body weight and functional training which directly influences movements in the ring.

Some WWE wrestlers have noted that crowd energy sometimes gets lost in the big stadium WrestleMania environment. What are the Tokyo Dome shows like… atmosphere, preparation, crowd energy, etc?

That’s an accurate statement. I certainly prefer performing in a more intimate environment. Korakuen Hall, York Hall in London for RevPro , or the garage for ICW in Glasgow.

The Dome is very surreal, it had the big match feel, but sometimes when I’m out to there I feel like I’m performing more for the cameras than the fans in attendance as they are a lot further back from the ring than normally, even the front row, and the people in the back are literally watching the screens and not the ring.

How did you get partnered with Ryusuke Taguchi and who came up with the Apollo 55 name?

When Minoru (Tanaka) left NJPW, myself and Taguchi where seen as both similar in age and size and kind of thrown together by the office. I came up with the name myself. I’m really into sci-fi and space in general so I wanted to incorporate that. 5 in Japanese is ‘GO’ . Taguchi’s nick name was ‘Funky Weapon a Go Go!’ Jackpot.

How/why did you become Pegasus Kid II?

Again, that was the offices choice. They saw a similarity between myself and the original in the fact that we were both foreigners and both human. Because that’s really the only similarity I saw. I was never a fan of the original but I was honoured to be held in the same light at that stage in my career

Do you feel that Junior Heavyweights are more respected in Japan/Europe than in America? If so, is it just a regional preference or something that’s been given room to grow/killed via booking?

No. I disagree. No matter how hard junior heavyweight wrestlers work they will always be over looked everywhere by heavyweights. And rightly so in my opinion. Wresting is a circus. When you see a heavyweight in person, his size, and the stuff they do, they deserve the respect.

Even when you talk about America, there are clearly more juniors nowadays when you look at all the indy promotions. Sure WWE is the land of the giants, but I think in general junior wrestling gets its fair share of exposure worldwide.

What have you learned from wrestling such Junior legends as Jushin Lyger, Koji Kanemoto, and Great Sasuke?

I first wrestled Liger when I was 24. I locked up with him and it was one those moments in your life that you never forget. He didn’t even have to say anything, but it was like seeing the Matrix, where everything started to make sense. Since then I have learned so much from Liger, and others, Jado and Gedo especially.

I also learned that I’m still young. I meet people in Ireland and they condescendingly ask me when I’m going to finish “that wrestling.” I’m 32 and I reply, “I’m only getting started!”

Whose idea was creating Bullet Club and how did it come about? If you had to choose one wrestler from another Japanese promotion to induct to Bullet Club, who would it be?

When we did the Apollo 55 turn on Taguchi it got such a good response the office decided to beef up what was originally going to be only me and Fale as my bouncer. But it worked a treat. Really the four original members are best pals and travel together in Japan anyway so it made sense. The name again was my idea. I had been using the ‘real shooter’ and pistol sign, and then of course ‘machine gun’ had his thing so I wanted to tie them together. I also specifically didn’t want 3 letters or a ‘the’ in front of it. I messed around a few ideas and came up with that.

Even since the formation of Bullet Club, your entrances has become much more flashy and dramatic. What was the inspiration behind your Real Rock’n'Rolla Jacket and what made you think to paint yourself up as, we presume, Marvel’s Carnage for the Tokyo Dome?

When I turned villain, the office wanted me to do something like a Double J cocky heel gimmick, but I wanted to put a modern twist on it. So, I showed them a few things, including TRON imagery, and then my AX endorsement and it all tied in.

I had 2 ideas for the Dome. One was to rig the ring with lights the same as my jacket. But I felt that we had already done the lights and I wanted something new. I was looking around and decided I wanted to be painted entirely black. That was what I thought was happening. Then on the day the artist when with her own ideas and it turned out looking like Carnage but was never meant to be. It was meant to be more like Venom. The paint turned out to be a blessing as it disguised the fact I had lost 10lbs in the 2 days before the Dome in the hospital with a vomiting bug.

With the rise of digital television, where do you see New Japan in five years?

If they can get their finger on how to get more accessible to the audience worldwide, with English commentary, merch store and DVD sales there really is an opportunity for it to blossom as it’s the best ‘wrestling’ product by far.

How was your experience wrestling in Mexico? What is the wrestling scene like in Ireland/the UK? How do these regions compare to how things go in Japan?

Mexico was hot and cold. I got really sick the first time I went down there. On top of tearing my calf in Japan the day for I flew out. I also got the customary “welcome to Mexico” from some of the boys and still have the scars to show but that’s nothing. The CMLL office were fantastic and even though I don’t understand a thing of what’s going on in or out of the ring I had a good time, especially the 2nd trip. Hopefully I’ll get an opportunity to go back again.

Ireland is quiet, there is one promotion called wrestling.ie that is running quite regular now and really professional.

UK is on fire. RevPro down south. There is Fight Club that’s really different. I’ve been so many places and there are so many lads I wanna work with. The level of the talent out there right now it’s a hot bed. Can’t forget ICW in Glasgow. An over 18′s promotion with an amazing loyal fan base and great booking. That one could really break out.

Would you ever consider promoting again? If so, would it be in Ireland or elsewhere?

No. I don’t think so. I’m a wrestler. I’m not interested in promoting any more. It’s hard. I like agenting matches, and coaching or giving some advise to people that ask.

Is there any truth to the rumours that you could join the WWE? If not, has there been any attempt to lure you away?

There is truth in the rumour that I would like to go into the wild and live off the land, and also the rumour that I would really like to work with some homeless charities.

If NJPW and WWE worked combined shows, who would you most like to work with on their roster?

John Cena or Randy Orton because that would mean I would be near the top of the card, and despite what lots of ‘fans’ think they know, both of them are two of the greatest performers on the planet.

What has prevented you from doing a tour of the popular US indies (outside of PWG dates in the past)?

Before I went to Japan no one wanted me… And rightly so, I was far from the finished product. Everyone had a chance, I had mailed all of the large groups at the time. But that was a different time, no Twitter or Facebook and YouTube hadn’t kicked off… I was in the States for 6 months, I had done some indys but none of the bigger names.

Now, I’m so busy working all NJPW’s shows I don’t have much time. When I’m off I’m home in Ireland, I have the groups I work with in the UK. The idea of a flight to the States sounds awful for 1 match. Plus most places won’t get me a visa, I’m not 23 with nothing to loose anymore, I’m not risking being black balled for an Indy shot. I live a simple life, if something came up that I wanted to do, I’d be there, but for now I literally don’t have time. I didn’t have a weekend off from march till X-Mas last year. 1 US Indy will take the guts of 4-5 days for me to travel in and out. I can work 3 times in UK in the same time.

Was there ever a moment in your career where you thought about quitting the business?

Never ever.

Do you spend much time watching wrestling when you aren’t working or do you like to take a break from it? If you do watch, what have been you been watching lately?

I used to watch everything. I had tapes literally from every promotion in the world. I wouldn’t even know what they were when I was buying them. When I was 19 I bought a K1 tape not realizing it was kick boxing! Now I watch the best wrestling in the world in NJPW on the monitor or through the curtain, I don’t really watch much else. I check out NXT cos I have some friends there, or if I’m home I’ll check out Raw once every 6 weeks.

What are some of your career highlights so far?

Every single day has been equally as important. The highlight has to be the friends I’ve made and the places I’ve got to see.

Which wrestlers, in your opinion, are underrated?

Karl Anderson
Rocky Romero
The Young Bucks
Ryusuke Taguchi
CJ Banks
Zack Sabre Jr
Ricochet
Sha Samuels
Johnny Moss

If you had one piece of advice to offer to aspiring wrestlers what would it be?

Forget about everything and everyone else. If you really want it that won’t be hard.
Becoming a pro wrestler is easy. All it takes is YOU giving absolutely everything it takes. It’s that easy.
No one is going to help you more than yourself so go out and train with as many different coaches and work as many different places as you can.

Where do you see Prince Devitt in 5 years?

I’m on a train heading to the country side right now. Hopefully back in the country side :-)
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GHERU

Rain Partier

Postby GHERU » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:37 pm

syxxpakk wrote:The following wrestlers are not signed to major promotions currently: AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Chris Hero, John Morrison, Rob Van Dam, Chris Masters, Carlito, Trevor Murdoch, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Jeff Jarrett, Roderick Strong, Ted Dibiase Jr., Brian Kendrick, Paul London, and Scott Steiner.

That's a heck of a diverse roster to build a promotion around.

soon to add Kaz and Daniels to that list
and maybe Del Rio
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Juan Cena

DANG!

Postby Juan Cena » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:59 pm


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Grayson

Outhouse Drafter

Postby Grayson » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:17 pm

Man, these fans hate Cena!

"Let's go Harper!"

:lol:
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:30 pm

Juan Cena wrote:


:lol:
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Stephen Day

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby Stephen Day » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:34 pm

GHERU wrote:soon to add Kaz and Daniels to that list
and maybe Del Rio


Considering what a huge name Del Rio is down in Mexico as Dos Caras Jr., I wouldn't expect him to remain unsigned for too long. Either CMLL or AAA will snap him up pretty quickly.
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Stephen Day

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby Stephen Day » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:34 pm

Juan Cena wrote:


Ah, irony is a wonderful thing. :lol:
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:24 pm

Razor Ramon was inducted into the HoF. But no reference at all was made to his Scott Hall persona in mention or video.
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Bianco

Swedish Pinata of Death

Postby Bianco » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:15 am

fieldy snuts wrote:Razor Ramon was inducted into the HoF. But no reference at all was made to his Scott Hall persona in mention or video.


I'm sure they just want to highlight his wwe days, probably the same reason the call Kevin Nash, Diesel when he enters the royal rumble. I think they've done it a couple of times with past HOF members
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:48 am

Wasn't sure if I should post this in the new stand or here:

Christopher Daniels and Kazarian have teamed up with Art Baltazar for their own comic book titled, “Christopher Daniels & Kazarian Wrestling Aw Yeah Comics!”. The comic is children orientated. More information on the comic is available at this link:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=51677


Art Baltazar :shock:
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syxxpakk

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby syxxpakk » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:50 pm

Wrestling Observer Web Site wrote:Ring of Honor announced this morning a deal with Ustream, which handles the iPPV for New Japan Pro Wrestling, to do both the 5/10 Global Wars show from Toronto and the 5/17 War of the Worlds show from the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan.

Both shows will feature ROH talent and the biggest stars from New Japan Pro Wrestling including Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson, Jushin Liger and The Young Bucks.

Both shows will be priced at $14.95

The Toronto show will air at 7:30 p.m. Eastern and 4:30 p.m. Pacific. The New York show will air at 7:30 p.m Eastern and 4:30 p.m. Pacific.

They will also be available for immediate replays.


Great news. Hopefully ROH will continue a partnership with Ustream afterwards as well.
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GLX

Outhouse Editor

Postby GLX » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:12 pm

Names being listed for last week’s WWE tryouts in Orlando at the WWE Performance Center include ACH, Arya Daivari (younger brother of Shawn Daivari), David Starr, Kevin Steen, Michael Elgin, Rocky Romero, Roderick Strong, Ronny Reeves, Willie Mack and Zane Dawson. Names confirmed to have worked the camp are Dawson, Steen, Strong and ACH.


http://www.prowrestling.com/backstage-n ... yout-camp/
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GHERU

Rain Partier

Postby GHERU » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:17 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:Razor Ramon was inducted into the HoF. But no reference at all was made to his Scott Hall persona in mention or video.

what I read was that this keeps the door open for an NWO induction as well later

Vince was very proud of the Razor persona
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:21 pm

GHERU wrote:what I read was that this keeps the door open for an NWO induction as well later

Vince was very proud of the Razor persona


1992 WWE Creative Team Meeting (In Robert Lamb's syncopated style):

Vince: I've got a great idea. Let's hire a white guy, make him a greasy Cuban scarface pastiche, and have him speak with a ridiculous accent and chew on a toothpick.

Sean Mooney: That's racist, Vince.

Vince: You son of a bitch. You're fired!

Sean Mooney: Right now?

Vince: You can be replaced! Get me Todd Pettingill!

Lord Alfred Hayes: Right away Vince!

Terra Ryzing: I think it's a brilliant idea, Vince.

Vince: Terra, one day, I'm going to let you bang my daughter.

Terra Ryzing: Why not right now? She's gotta be 17 or 18.

Vince: I'm wrestling royalty! If I catch anyone banging my daughter before she turns 21, they'll never be in the hall of fame ever! Not even when they die!

Sgt. Slaughter: So what do we call this greaseball?

Vince: How about Razor Ramon?

Tito Santana: Vince, as probably the most high-profile Latino wrestler in the world right now, I have to take issue with this. Wrestling has a long and storied tradition in Central and South America, and I think it would be a mistake to take a white guy from Ohio and make him act like a horrible stereotype. Surely you can find some way to honor the tradition of Latinos in wrestling and...

Vince: Who the fuck are you?!

Tito Santana: I'm a former Tag Team and Intercontinental Champion. I've been with the company since 1979!

Vince: Get your ass in bullfighting costume, you illegal alien!

Tito Santana: I'm from Texas!

Vince: Your name is now El Matador!

Tito Santana: Dammit!

Terra Ryzing: You should be proud of yourself today, Vince.

Vince: One day, you'll be my son in law, and we'll bang my daughter together.
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Lord Simian

The Lord of the Monkeys

Postby Lord Simian » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:27 pm

I heard someone once joke that Razor Ramon was loved by Vince, because he had never seen Scarface and thought it was original!

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