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[avengingtitan]

I wonder if he and Miracloman are watching a different show than I am. It seems he is dedicated and protective (of Snips), but I never felt "wholesome" really described him.

Agreed. He killed that one dude with a lightsaber to the chest and then seemed shocked that everyone else didnt say thanks.

[dairydead]

i do know said that it was said that Anakin will be getting darker this season

[Greg]

My main problem with it is that it difficult for me is reconcile this portrayal of Anakin as wholesome hero and mentor to his younger apprentice with the murderous monster he would become.
It not that I don't believe someone can change so much,but already knowing his fate would take a such malevolent turn make it difficult for me to root for him.
Also I have a bad feeling about "Snips" ultimate fate.

Hmm. For me, if a story is good and the characters are well written, I can get into it despite knowing the outcome.

[Miracloman]

I wonder if he and Miracloman are watching a different show than I am. It seems he is dedicated and protective (of Snips), but I never felt "wholesome" really described him.

Well I admit to not be as dedicated a viewer as you,so probably missed something.But what episodes had I seen portray Anakin in a much more flattering light than the one in Episode II and III.He not only seem protective of Ashoka but he also had offered her sound advice,in stark contrast to Episode III where his lack of temper,maturity and wisdom prevented the elder Jedi member to grant him the title of "master".More over,this is the guy who did not give up or lost hope in the occasions where Snips,Obi Wan or hell,even R2 where missing or in grave danger.And yet ,we are to believe that because some dream he would lost hope and despair so easily that he would walk toward the dark side so readily and easily to the point of acting in contradiction to the qualities he had so far displayed in the show.
The only way the transition would feel natural and coherent is if something so dramatic that shakes Anakin's to the very core happens by the end of the series(i.e tragedy befalls Asoka).

[Zechs]

Hmm. For me, if a story is good and the characters are well written, I can get into it despite knowing the outcome.

Yeah if there's one thing is this show is bridging that gap better on why Anakin turned to the dark side. The best example was this:



Season 2 was like an entire season of minor showings of Vader-like mannerisms.

[Greg]

Yeah if there's one thing is this show is bridging that gap better on why Anakin turned to the dark side. The best example was this:



Season 2 was like an entire season of minor showings of Vader-like mannerisms.

Hmm. I really need to watch this show. One of my aunts enjoys it a lot.

[Miracloman]

Yeah if there's one thing is this show is bridging that gap better on why Anakin turned to the dark side. The best example was this:



Season 2 was like an entire season of minor showings of Vader-like mannerisms.

He went Jack Bauer on that poor fool.

[PDH]

Granted.

But how does he go from being a whining teenager to a mature, selfless hero who is maybe a little reckless at times, but fights entirely for the forces of good, and then back to being an annoying man-bitch?

I don't disagree that he has no motivation whatsoever or that it makes no sense. I mean, he goes from being (supposedly) a hero to slaughtering children in about five minutes of screen time. It may well be the single most serious flaw in the whole prequel trilogy.

But it's there in the movies, too, so if we're not going to bother with the whole 'plausible psychology' thing we might as well have a less annoying portrayal of Anakin.

You could argue, I suppose, that the Anakin of the movies was always an evil bastard, in which case the cartoon would stand out as being incongruous. If that's true (and you could certainly make a good case for it) then I agree. But I always thought the movies were intended to show him actually fall to the Dark Side.

The main problem is that the Star Wars world has this black and white morality where some things are seen as intrinsically good or evil, whereas in reality value is extrinsic. If you think that Force Lightning, for example, is bad that is a fact about what you think, it's not a fact about Force Lightning. If you use it to jump start someone's heart, say, is that evil? Well, in the Star Wars movies it would probably make your eyes turn yellow and give you an an evil face from which we're meant to infer that, yes, it does take it's toll on you, spiritually. It's an inherently 'Dark Side' technique.

Within those constraints it must be very difficult to show a character fall to the Dark Side. It requires characters to explicitly reason that they're going to turn evil now but people rarely think like that. They consistently believe themselves to be good, regardless of what atrocities they commit. It must be harder to delude yourself like that when you have a name like, 'Darth Tyranus' and your master is a monstrous, cackling gargoyle.

It's like this sketch:

[PDH]

I know that the EU has expanded on this idea a lot, btw, showing that there were serious problems with the Jedi philosophy but it really doesn't come across in the movies at all.

[Zechs]

Hmm. I really need to watch this show. One of my aunts enjoys it a lot.

S1 through S2 are pretty good. It's just S3 is a crap shoot. After the great two-parter on Clones it goes to utter shit save for two episodes that focus on bounty hunters (one assassinating Padme) the other pretty much Vos and Obi-Wan taking on Cad Bane which is the end of the Ziro the Hutt subplot that was going on at the end of S1). Then it's shit again until really the Nightsisters Trilogy. Which really is the highlight of the entire season. Then it has the worst episodes of the series with the Mortis Trilogy which wastes Liam Neeson reprising his role as Qui-Gon.

The remaining episodes aren't bad, but they aren't particularly memorable either.

[sdsichero]

Well I admit to not be as dedicated a viewer as you,so probably missed something.But what episodes had I seen portray Anakin in a much more flattering light than the one in Episode II and III.He not only seem protective of Ashoka but he also had offered her sound advice,in stark contrast to Episode III where his lack of temper,maturity and wisdom prevented the elder Jedi member to grant him the title of "master".More over,this is the guy who did not give up or lost hope in the occasions where Snips,Obi Wan or hell,even R2 where missing or in grave danger.And yet ,we are to believe that because some dream he would lost hope and despair so easily that he would walk toward the dark side so readily and easily to the point of acting in contradiction to the qualities he had so far displayed in the show.
The only way the transition would feel natural and coherent is if something so dramatic that shakes Anakin's to the very core happens by the end of the series(i.e tragedy befalls Asoka).

Right now I'm not quite sure where this is all happening. Yeah, the Anakin here is different from the movies... but he's actually decently portrayed here. I think in my mind he is overwriting some of what the movies showed so I admit that I am not remembering his movie portrayal as much. He has an edge, he is rash on his own in the TV series, but protective of Tano. If this goes on much longer, hopefully I will say "what prequel movies? there was only a TV show."