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Postby sdsichero » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

dairydead wrote:Nice cover. I wish it was a more unexpected character though, but I'll live


I guess I prefer him to Cad Bane (didn't like his design).

The first two were a clone trooper and Yoda so I guess he was due.
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Postby sdsichero » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:01 pm

So maybe there'll be space bitches..

http://tv.ign.com/articles/117/1175783p1.html

Star Wars TV Show to Include Drugs and Prostitution?
Lucas' producer discusses the perennially in-development project.
June 13, 2011
by Eric Goldman

Are you ready to explore the seedier side of Star Wars?

In a new interview with Czech Position, George Lucas' producer, Rick McCallum, reveals some interesting tidbits about the potential live-action Star Wars TV series. The main thrust of the interview is that the show could potentially be shot in the Czech Republic, with McCallum saying, "This would be one of the primary places because of the talent."

But the more notable portion of the interview is when McCallum discusses what the TV series would be, saying, "Basically, it is like The Godfather; it's the Empire slowly building up its power base around the galaxy, what happens in Coruscant, which is the major capital, and it's [about] a group of underground bosses who live there and control drugs, prostitution."

McCallum's statements are the most we've heard so far about the crime perspective of the show, though Lucas has made references to series like The Sopranos and The Wire before when describing it. McCallum has previously been the one to give more specific details than Lucas, having revealed the only character we know for sure to expect to see in the series – Boba Fett. McCallum stressed to Czech Position that while the TV series would take place in-between Episode III and Episode IV, Luke Skywalker would not appear at all.

Reiterating recent comments by Lucas about why the show is currently at a standstill, McCallum says, "The TV series is on hold, but that has nothing to do with the Czech Republic; it has to do with [the episodes being] so ambitious. We have 50 hours of third-draft scripts, but the problem we have is there is a lot of digital animation; we don't have the technology yet to be able to do them at a price that is safe for television. Since we would be financing them, it would be suicide for us to do this [now]. So we are going to wait three or four years."

McCallum gets a bit more pessimistic though, adding, "Network television and cable television as we know it are completely imploding, so we're not really sure that in five years' time we can release a dramatic one-hour episode because it is all reality TV now."
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Postby Strict31 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:32 pm

I just don't understand how TV shows like BSG, Stargate and Farscape could give us these massive largely CGI-driven battle scenes several times a season but Lucas's TV show efforts claim the tech is too expensive for what they want to do. Even Enterprise and DS-9 managed to give us these massive CGI scenes. Towards the end, DS9 relied very heavily on vast battle scenes.

And they all looked great.

Is this show focusing on entirely CGI characters or something? More Jar-Jar types instead of muppets and human performers? I could see that breaking the budget if you're going to regularly showcase characters who cannot exist except as expensive CGI models. But more of that shit is the last thing Star Wars needs. Especially if they're going for a Godfather/The Wire vibe.

I just don't see what else could be so prohibitively expensive when other sci-fi TV shows have been doing it for years.
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I'm wavering toward not buying that season. Sure it has a few good episodes (the opening, the Nightsisters trilogy, and Cad Bane vs. Obi-Wan and Vos. But it has the worst episodes the series ever had so far in that Force Trilogy. God that storyline was just such a huge letdown. From the waste of Liam Nesson to we could had Darth Bane and Darth Revan in the episodes, but they decided it be too much if they added these Sith Lords to the mix.
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Postby sdsichero » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:06 pm

Strict31 wrote:I just don't understand how TV shows like BSG, Stargate and Farscape could give us these massive largely CGI-driven battle scenes several times a season but Lucas's TV show efforts claim the tech is too expensive for what they want to do. Even Enterprise and DS-9 managed to give us these massive CGI scenes. Towards the end, DS9 relied very heavily on vast battle scenes.

And they all looked great.

Is this show focusing on entirely CGI characters or something? More Jar-Jar types instead of muppets and human performers? I could see that breaking the budget if you're going to regularly showcase characters who cannot exist except as expensive CGI models. But more of that shit is the last thing Star Wars needs. Especially if they're going for a Godfather/The Wire vibe.

I just don't see what else could be so prohibitively expensive when other sci-fi TV shows have been doing it for years.


I would guess (with no proof), it's probably the backdrops and aliens.
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Postby Strict31 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:08 pm

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I would guess (with no proof), it's probably the backdrops and aliens.


Sanctuary kicks out fully CGI backdrops all the time. It's one of the reasons it was so cheap to produce.

It's gotta be the aliens, man.
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Postby bkthomson » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:13 pm

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Sanctuary kicks out fully CGI backdrops all the time. It's one of the reasons it was so cheap to produce.

It's gotta be the aliens, man.


No it is his ego. George wants it done his way and his style, nothing is going to change his mind. Plus I'll bet he even wants to make it in 3D.
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Postby sdsichero » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:24 pm

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Sanctuary kicks out fully CGI backdrops all the time. It's one of the reasons it was so cheap to produce.

It's gotta be the aliens, man.


Haven't seen that. How expansive are the backdrops in that? Do they do things on par with Endor, Kashyyk or Felucia?

I hope that when it comes out, we get some good aliens as leads (or at least seconds)...
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Postby Strict31 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:59 pm

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Haven't seen that. How expansive are the backdrops in that? Do they do things on par with Endor, Kashyyk or Felucia?

I hope that when it comes out, we get some good aliens as leads (or at least seconds)...


Sanctuary is a shitty show, so don't think I'm singing its praises. But they've created entire fuckin' cities and underground realms and volcanoes and shit. I mean, that show just started off as a home-brew webseries, Sd. From before they even got picked up by Sci-Fi, they've had to do more with less.

That's simply the reality of TV science fiction, and it always has been. CGI makes that equation easier to solve than ever before, but at the same time, TV isn't the best place to perfectly render every seed pod on Felucia every single week.

And shit man, let's be real; Endor was a real place, and Kashyyk could just as easily have been filmed in a real place. The only thing otherworldly about either of those places were the inhabitants.

If Lucas wants to do a weekly version of Avatar, that technology is never gonna be there. But if he wants to put on a decent show with great looking CGI backdrops and FX, people are already doing that.
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Postby sdsichero » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:22 pm

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Sanctuary is a shitty show, so don't think I'm singing its praises. But they've created entire fuckin' cities and underground realms and volcanoes and shit. I mean, that show just started off as a home-brew webseries, Sd. From before they even got picked up by Sci-Fi, they've had to do more with less.

That's simply the reality of TV science fiction, and it always has been. CGI makes that equation easier to solve than ever before, but at the same time, TV isn't the best place to perfectly render every seed pod on Felucia every single week.

And shit man, let's be real; Endor was a real place, and Kashyyk could just as easily have been filmed in a real place. The only thing otherworldly about either of those places were the inhabitants.

If Lucas wants to do a weekly version of Avatar, that technology is never gonna be there. But if he wants to put on a decent show with great looking CGI backdrops and FX, people are already doing that.


Okay maybe I'll seek out some trailers for Sanctuary rather than watch it from your "review"

I totally understand that things are a lot better nowadays with less budgets. Oh if only we had this tech with TNG and DS9...

If they were going to do location shoots for .Kashyyk and Endor, that might be one of those things that contribute to costs. Then again, trying to duplicate such an earthly look in cgi is (1) sorta a waste of time and (2) takes a lotta pixels.

So I guess I can understand if he wanted to do stuff other than interiors and caves as sets.

Can't say I know what's happening though. For all I know bk could be right and a bulk of the reservation is because of 3D (which would be a damn shame but kind of believable).
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Postby sdsichero » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:15 pm

Weird I thought they had one before...

http://www.figures.com/forums/news/13538-lego-star-wars-padawan-menace.html

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LEGO Star Wars: The Padawan Menace
First-ever original animated special premiering Friday July 22...

After the success of their building sets, video game collaborations and animated shorts, The LEGO Group and Lucasfilm will join forces once again for an all-new adventure – their first-ever original television special. Premiering on Cartoon Network on Friday, July 22 at 7:00 p.m. (ET, PT) in high-definition computer animation, the 30-minute original standalone special – LEGO Star Wars: The Padawan Menace – will feature the charm, action and irreverent humor that have become the signature style of LEGO Star Wars animation collaborations.

Featuring situations, characters and locations from throughout the entire Star Wars Saga, the original adventure is written by Emmy Award winner Michael Price (The Simpsons) and produced by Academy Award-winning Animal Logic, the production company behind Happy Feet.

LEGO Star Wars: The Padawan Menace is scheduled to air multiple times on Cartoon Network during the weekend including: Friday, July 22 at 7 p.m. (ET/PT), Saturday, July 23 at 10:30 a.m. and 5:30 p.m. (ET/PT) and Sunday, July 24 at 4:30 p.m. (ET/PT).

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Postby bkthomson » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:53 pm

sdsichero wrote:Weird I thought they had one before...

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Postby Zechs » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:10 pm

Heh at Anakin gawking at the TIE CUSTOM INTERCEPTOR.
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Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:21 pm

Regarding the live-action...I think Lucas is looking at a BSG predicament: the script calls for blowing most of the budget early on in the pilot or maybe the first few ep's and they're not left with enough to do additional FX sequences later on.

I'm surprised though, I'd imagine they have stock footage and models on file that that they can use to cut budget corners when it comes to ships and planet scenery. Makes me wonder exactly how much $$$ the script needs per ep.

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