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by **achilles** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:48 am

Johnny O wrote:Agreed. It's funny how the death always becomes accidental or justifiable in some way in some people's eyes when it's a white man killing a black man. It's almost like black people's lives have less value to them, but that can't be true.

And of course, the flip side of the coin has it that any black killing of any white person is justifiable, and any killing of a black person by a white person is murder, no matter the circumstances in either case. Believe me, I've heard both. Hell, I'm hearing the kid's family now claim that any mention that he might have been attacking the guy is horrible and racist.

The truth of course is somewhat different, and depends on the circumstances. For example, the dragging murder of a black man by maybe three white men a few years back was mostly decried, barring the odd nutball white supremacist, and justifiably so. While the actions of three black kids, equally horrible, in lighting on fire a white teen boy after pouring alcohol on him, were barely mentioned beyond the local notice the case got in Florida a while back. The kid survived, but likely wishes he hadn't. And will probably continue to pray for death until he finally does die.

So, it's not like there's any special racial component that guarantees a certain kind of coverage, or coverage at all to these things.

by **US Agent** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:22 pm

I bet if he had a son he could see him wearing it. And he could see you wearing it too for only $40.

by **GOSD** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:27 pm

The only thing that concerns me is this statement from the kid's mother:

"Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, said, "The only comment that I have right now is that they've killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation."

Who is they?

by **DMM** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:32 pm

GOSD wrote:The only thing that concerns me is this statement from the kid's mother:

"Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, said, "The only comment that I have right now is that they've killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation."

Who is they?

Indeed... I didn't even catch that.

by **habitual** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:33 pm

GOSD wrote:The only thing that concerns me is this statement from the kid's mother:

"Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, said, "The only comment that I have right now is that they've killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation."

Who is they?

Members of the Sanford PD that are leaking things to the press.

Hab

by **DMM** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:34 pm

habitual wrote:
Members of the Sanford PD that are leaking things to the press.

Hab

But the Sanford PD didn't kill her son. :smt102

by **habitual** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:43 pm

DMM wrote:But the Sanford PD didn't kill her son.

Yeah, but, they're still the ones getting raked over the coals in the press.

I think the consensus is that whatever side you fall on in this debate is that they're the ones that screwed up royally.

Hab

by **KingPagla** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:00 pm

GOSD wrote:The only thing that concerns me is this statement from the kid's mother:

"Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, said, "The only comment that I have right now is that they've killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation."

Who is they?

An angry, grieving mother saying something that can be inferred as (reverse) racist is the only thing about this that concerns you?

by **GOSD** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:04 pm

KingPagla wrote:An angry, grieving mother saying something that can be inferred as (reverse) racist is the only thing about this that concerns you?

It's one thing. There are many others.

That one just interested me of all the things that came out yesterday about this case.

by **KingPagla** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:41 pm

GOSD wrote:
It's one thing. There are many others.

That one just interested me of all the things that came out yesterday about this case.

You said the only thing! You reverse, reverse racist!

by **GOSD** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:44 pm

KingPagla wrote:You said the only thing! You reverse, reverse racist!

No, I'm a reverse, reverse, reverse racist!! :smt013

by **Psivage** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:08 pm

So with Zimmerman claiming it was him screaming and other people claiming it was Trayvon, is there any to heighten the audio?

And now with this witness saying he saw the thing, why didn't he come forward when all this begin.

I think the one thing everyone could agree on is this death was preventable if Zimmerman followed the police directions about not following.

by **DMM** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:21 pm

Psivage wrote:So with Zimmerman claiming it was him screaming and other people claiming it was Trayvon, is there any to heighten the audio?

And now with this witness saying he saw the thing, why didn't he come forward when all this begin.

I think the one thing everyone could agree on is this death was preventable if Zimmerman followed the police directions about not following.

well, it wasn't police directions, it was the 911 operator's directions, right?

by **Rockman** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:40 pm

The witness could have come forward during the initial inquiry, he just didn't talk to the press. The police generally don't release all that information to the press.

by **GOSD** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:48 pm

DMM wrote:well, it wasn't police directions, it was the 911 operator's directions, right?

Yep, the 911 dispatcher.

I wish that she (or was it he?) told Zimmerman more than once not to follow Trayvon and to go back to his car. I wonder if he even heard her say that to him.