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[achilles]

Shooting an unarmed kid and killing him should kinda ruin your life.

Hab

Yeah, particularly when that younger, stronger kid was trying to kill you at the time.

I do find it interesting that the vast majority of black murder victims are killed by other blacks, yet there's no media interest in that, and hardly a peep from the community about that, or indeed from demagogues like Obama, Jesse Jackson, or Sharpton. Only when a "white" person does the killing, (regardless of the circumstances of said killing, or what the victim was doing at the time), whether that person is actually white or not, is there this kind of fuss.

And nothing at all was said nationally about that other 17 year old black kid in Florida, the one who murdered in cold blood two white British college kids who were begging for their lives at the time, the sweet kid who sat in court with a smirk on his face at time, when he wasn't appearing bored. No nation-wide wondering what the two victims could have done with their lives had they lived, no bounties put on the head of the killer, no race-baiting rhetoric by Obama about how the murderer could have been his kid, (which had their parents understandably upset, questioning if Obama would comment on their children's murders).

Nothing at all said either about the countless black kids murdered by other black kids. Apparently they don't count.

And, curiously, given that Zimmerman's Hispanic, there are no breathless Democratic editorials about Hispanic racism, (the Dems want Hispanic votes come November, and don't want to piss them off). Rather, we see a concerted effort by the media and the Dems to paint him as white and racist, like all whites, (while also conveniently ignoring the repeatedly demonstrated racism of notable black pundits like Sharpton, who's made comments about Asians as well as whites, Marion Berry, who also dislikes Asians, (who evidently are "dirty"), and of course Jackson with his "hymietown". Instead, a huge effort to lie to make it seem that the "white" Zimmerman said all sorts of racist things about Martin, (and not just NBC either).

Makes me wonder what this case is really about.

[habitual]

Yeah, particularly when that younger, stronger kid was trying to kill you at the time.

I do find it interesting that the vast majority of black murder victims are killed by other blacks, yet there's no media interest in that, and hardly a peep from the community about that, or indeed from demagogues like Obama, Jesse Jackson, or Sharpton. Only when a "white" person does the killing, (regardless of the circumstances of said killing, or what the victim was doing at the time), whether that person is actually white or not, is there this kind of fuss.

And nothing at all was said nationally about that other 17 year old black kid in Florida, the one who murdered in cold blood two white British college kids who were begging for their lives at the time, the sweet kid who sat in court with a smirk on his face at time, when he wasn't appearing bored. No nation-wide wondering what the two victims could have done with their lives had they lived, no bounties put on the head of the killer, no race-baiting rhetoric by Obama about how the murderer could have been his kid, (which had their parents understandably upset, questioning if Obama would comment on their children's murders).

Nothing at all said either about the countless black kids murdered by other black kids. Apparently they don't count.

Right....hoodie + skittles is entirely comparable to a sociopathic murder.

I don't see where your going really complaining about Obama and Reverend Al, I'd be more upset at the chief of Police and the state attorney that released Zimmerman the night he shot that kid.

Hab

[achilles]

Right....hoodie + skittles is entirely comparable to a sociopathic murder.

I don't see where your going really complaining about Obama and Reverend Al, I'd be more upset at the chief of Police and the state attorney that released Zimmerman the night he shot that kid.

Hab

Missing the point there. There's been a concerted national effort to make a local shooting case of disputed circumstances into a huge indictment of white racism. Obama, who has a history of doing things like that, and Sharpton, who also has a history of race baiting, while being a notable racist himself, say nothing when it's a black killing whites. They say nothing when it is blacks killing other blacks. Eric Holder has pointed out what is really going on here in Congressional hearings.

In questions about the hate crimes laws, he's said that while a violent act against a black person by a white person is a hate crime, a violent act by a black person against a white person is most definitely NOT a hate crime, even if the person committing the act yelled racist things while doing said act, or specifically targeted his victim based on race.

Why? According to Holder, there are certain protected classes, (which is BTW not specified in the laws, but is merely his and the Obama Administration's interpretation), that are granted protection under those laws, while other groups, (such as whites), are not.

Which fits in with how these laws have been prosecuted in recent years.

This is all about the same thing, treating races differently, which is un-Constitutional as well as immoral. Which is exemplified by the Martin case, which should have been handled on a local level, and should have attracted no more and no less attention than the case with the British victims I mentioned, or the countless cases of black on black violence.

Martin's life was worth no more and no less than theirs, yet it gets assigned a far greater value for the narrative it depicts, one heavily pushed by the media, the Democrats, and certain other segments of society.

The chief of police and the state attorney made a judgment call. In their view at that time, he should not have been arrested. Presumably, they had their reasons for that, valid or not. Yet you seem to assign far more value to the homicide guy you keep bringing up, as though he has some sort of infallible knowledge merely because he backed your position.

Which is shared by the Martin family, Jackson, Sharpton, Obama, NBC and the rest of the media, and which seems to be to give Zimmerman an unfair trial after he's executed.

Something that contradicts everything America is supposed to stand for, as well as the supposed liberal values that for example stood on display when the Obama Administration insisted on holding civilian trials for KSM and his ilk because they said military tribunals were not fair. A move supported by nearly all Democrats and the media. Yet it seems that fair trials aren't really a liberal priority after all, nor one of the media's priorities. Unless of course they can raise the spectre of white racism. Or some sort of societal defect inherent in America.

[habitual]

I disagree.

The special prosecutor was appointed by the Governor because he think's the state prosectuor screwed up, both are conservatives.

Are you upset with Rick Scott for putting this in motion? No one is more responsible for this making the national stage than him.

Hab

[Chris]

Secondly, "innocent until proven guilty"

This sure seems to be used pretty loosely around here. All of you were pretty hellbent on convicting Casey Anthony last year.

[e_galston]

This sure seems to be used pretty loosely around here. All of you were pretty hellbent on convicting Casey Anthony last year.

you know this is the outhouse right??? pretty much everyone on here is a hypocrite if they don't agree with something..

[AaronW]

I wonder if there will be rioting if he is found not guilty. Probably a lot of pressure on a jury.

[MoneyMelon]

There are so many groups with an agenda going on about this case that I honestly have no idea what to believe anymore. You got racists and gun nuts claiming this guy was attacked, and then you have "civil rights" groups and bleeding hearts saying this man was a psychopath racist.

[Benderbrau]

There are so many groups with an agenda going on about this case that I honestly have no idea what to believe anymore. You got racists and gun nuts claiming this guy was attacked, and then you have "civil rights" groups and bleeding hearts saying this man was a psychopath racist.

I think the safest course of action is to assume that they are both at fault and both equally to blame for the situation so the only fair thing to do should be to give them both the same sentence. What's that? Oh Trayvon Martin was given a death sentence? Well then in all fairness someone shoot Zimmerman and let's call it a day.

[MoneyMelon]

I think the safest course of action is to assume that they are both at fault and both equally to blame for the situation so the only fair thing to do should be to give them both the same sentence. What's that? Oh Trayvon Martin was given a death sentence? Well then in all fairness someone shoot Zimmerman and let's call it a day.

If we do it by firing squad, we can win back the gun nuts!

[AaronW]

Seems like the Florida law is on Zimmerman's side. I think once he is set free and the rioting ends you will get yahoo's like Obama and other national politicans looking to put pressure on Florida to change their laws. We have the castle doctrine here where you don't have to retreat from your property but I think a stand your ground law needs to be passed.

[MoneyMelon]

We really need more reasons to shoot people.

[Timbales]

In my opinion, there is the law and there is what's right. I think if one is going to carry a gun, then that means they intend to kill someone eventually.

[Benderbrau]

If we do it by firing squad, we can win back the gun nuts!

And by shooting a Mexican we'll earn extra points with them for the next time they feel oppressed

[Benderbrau]

In my opinion, there is the law and there is what's right. I think if one is going to carry a gun, then that means they intend to kill someone eventually.

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